Last post on Apr 13, 2007 at 11:55 AM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Subaru Legacy, Saturn Aura, Sedan
#11005 of 12297 Re: Um... [scape2]
Jan 25, 2007 (6:48 pm)
Ever heard of torque?
So what's its torque? 300 lb-ft? If that's the case then I can PROBABLY overlook the pathetic 149 HP rating from a 3.0 V6.
You can spin it anyway you want but in this day and age 149 HP will be something from a 2.2 I4. Let me give you some reference: The 1995 Honda Accord (i.e, 12 years ago) has a 2.7L V6 that puts out 170 HP and 165 lb-ft of torque.
#11006 of 12297 Re: First Name Basis: sometimes is not a good thing .. [booyahcramer]
Jan 25, 2007 (6:49 pm)
"Many folks don't have to pinch pennies either when buying a car. Hyundai has to price their cars less or people won't buy them when there's a Camcord for the same price. "
Here we go again.. about price. The fact is that the Honda/Camry are going to cost you thousands more at purchase price. For those of us who don't feel the need to pay the extra $$ for a perceived advantage.. we get bashed, because we didn't pay more. Why pay more and get less?? Remember when Honda/Toyota meant value, real value... When you actually paid less and got more..
#11007 of 12297 Re: First Name Basis: sometimes is not a good thing .. [scape2]
Jan 25, 2007 (6:54 pm)
Why pay more and get less
Can you please elaborate more on how did one pay more to get less with a Camry or Accord?
#11008 of 12297 Re: Um... [w9cw]
Jan 25, 2007 (6:55 pm)
Thinking about the vulcan 3.0.. I know 4 people who have this engine.. 2 in Taurus, 1 in a Sable, and one in a Mazda Truck... all have had no problems.. 2 have over 100,000 miles.. Hmm.... Plus, get out on the net. Read, Read, read... The vulcan 3.0 is known for its reliability..
#11009 of 12297 Re: Um... [booyahcramer]
Jan 25, 2007 (6:57 pm)
I also owned an Accord that had electrical bugs galore.. and squeaked like crazy.. Why would I buy another Accord??
#11010 of 12297 Re: Um... [scape2]
Jan 25, 2007 (7:03 pm)
The vulcan 3.0 is known for its reliability
Anything that's that ancient and pathetic in performance better be reliable...
#11011 of 12297 Re: Um... [scape2]
Jan 25, 2007 (7:25 pm)
Read, Read, read... The vulcan 3.0 is known for its reliability..
I know how to read, but don't have to to know how reliable my 96 Taurus was in leaving me disappointed in it. Took a bath at trade-in too.
Bought a Camry. Put 88000 miles on it and nothing ever went wrong with it. Excellent, excellent reliability.
Traded that for an Accord. Excellent, excellent reliability.
Thanks for the memories Ford.
#11012 of 12297 Re: Um... [jimmy81]
Jan 25, 2007 (7:35 pm)
why trade in a camry with only 88k, if it was so great?
there are a lot of reasons, i just want to know what your reason is.
#11013 of 12297 Re: Um... [jimmy81]
Jan 25, 2007 (8:24 pm)
Currently have an '05 Taurus Company car w/the Vulcan motor. It has 60K on it in 20 months. While the motor is old and underpowered, it has performed very well. While other parts of the car have a few issues, the motor has been bullet proof.
Jan 25, 2007 (8:30 pm)
When do y'all consider a motor to be deemed reliable? After 50k miles of good operation? 100k? 200k?
Personally, I think any engine on the market should go 100k before requiring any more than regular maintenance and scheduled services. Saying Honda's are bulletproof because of the 69k miles of trouble-free operation out of my dad's 2005 Accord doesn't mean nearly as much as still having a daily driver with 170,000 miles on it, with only a cooling fan replaced in the engine room. Not to me, anyways.