Last post on Apr 13, 2007 at 12:55 PM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Subaru Legacy, Saturn Aura, Sedan
#10856 of 12297 2006 Sonata vs 2003 Accord
Jan 22, 2007 (12:34 pm)
I owned both (V6 versions) and drive both the same way (aggressive, floor the gas pedal, over 85mph on the highway whenever possible).
2006 Sonata - 16 to 18 mpg on average. Very poor. The MORE powerful and faster Accord used to average 6 to 8 mpg more. 3 trips to the dealer for warranty work already (including one serious leak issue in the engine).
2003 Accord - 24 to 26 mpg. Absolutely awesome. No trips to the dealer.
Very sorry I traded in my Accord for a Sonata. Learned the hard way that price is not everything. You get what you pay for.
Finally - the resale value of the Sonata is in the toilet. Got top dollar for the Accord when I traded it in. I guess fleets say it all - 50% for the Sonata and only 1% for the Accord. (http://www.fleet-central.com/af/t_pop_pdf.cfm?action=stat&link=http://www.fleet- -central.com/af/stats2006/cars_web.pdf)
This is the first and last Hyundai that will ever me owned in this family! Back to Honda next time (although GM has some impressive offerings based on the Auto Show - only time will tell).
#10857 of 12297 Re: First Name Basis: sometimes is not a good thing .. [ctalk]
Jan 22, 2007 (1:35 pm)
Its tough to like Hyundai even though they build a better car now. I don't know if its the name, the zero status factor, or the looks of the car, but they're creepy to me. I'd rather spend the extra cash and get a Honda.
#10858 of 12297 Re: 2006 Sonata vs 2003 Accord [matt44]
Jan 22, 2007 (2:36 pm)
while 50% of Sonatas may be over on a rental lot somewhere, and you might have a bear of a time even finding 1 Accord, this is a function of corporate policies, Honda specifically doesn't want Accord on those lots, Hyundai OTH wants to get as many American butts in a Sonata as possible not only through Hertz etc. but also with aggressive upfront pricing. The resale value implications should remain as you suggest as long as both these things continue. Just can't imagine an older V6 Accord outrunning an 06 Sonata, althought the mpg part doesn't surprise me that much.
#10859 of 12297 Re: 2006 Sonata vs 2003 Accord [captain2]
Jan 22, 2007 (3:39 pm)
Just can't imagine an older V6 Accord outrunning an 06 Sonata,
The 03 V6 Accord is actually quicker than the 06/07 models. Strange, but true.
#10860 of 12297 Re: 2006 Sonata vs 2003 Accord [elroy5]
Jan 22, 2007 (4:22 pm)
see, now you made me go look it up - sure 'nuff the Accord picked up an extra 300 lbs. or so in there somewhere. Maybe the 290hp TL/S engine in the Accord's future because somehow don't see it going down in size?
#10861 of 12297 Re: 2006 Sonata vs 2003 Accord [captain2]
Jan 22, 2007 (4:27 pm)
I think the Accord will have the 3.2 liter engine, and not the 3.5. They should have no problem getting 260hp (probably more) with the 3.2, and that will be enough. The regular TL still uses the 3.2, so I don't see the Accord going larger.
Jan 22, 2007 (5:05 pm)
chooses an 07 Altima S automatic over an 07 Camry LE! This is a 60 year old woman who just test drove 5 different cars and chose the Altima.. Her choice came down to the Altima and the Camry. Want to know what changed her mind... The manager at the Toyota dealership started bashing the Nissans, saying they had "all these problems" and "recalls".. She was educated and knows about the Toyota whoes of present. Another factor.. the $1100 price difference.. Toyota better watch it...
#10863 of 12297 Re: Neighbor [scape2]
Jan 22, 2007 (6:18 pm)
Am I missing something here? I think I'm completely missing the point... a little help?
#10864 of 12297 Re: 2006 Sonata vs 2003 Accord [captain2]
Jan 22, 2007 (6:22 pm)
Just can't imagine an older V6 Accord outrunning an 06 Sonata, althought the mpg part doesn't surprise me that much.
2003 Accord - 240 hp, ~ 3,300 lbs
2006 Sonata - 235 hp, ~ 3,450 lbs
Seems logical to me.
#10865 of 12297 Re: Neighbor [thegraduate]
Jan 22, 2007 (6:22 pm)
Scape2 needs some therapy/counseling for his Toyota fixation.