Last post on Apr 13, 2007 at 11:55 AM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Subaru Legacy, Saturn Aura, Sedan
#10446 of 12297 Re: getting older [elroy5]
Dec 27, 2006 (6:24 pm)
Trust me, the Toyota Camry was better than a Taurus in 1996. Actually the best looking Camry ever. And the car was really excellent for reliability. Best shot Taurus took was during the days of the first generation, which had the Audi look going on. As far as outselling Toyota, that was done with rental fleet sales.
Newer Toyotas may be higher tech, but I doubt they are better cars for reliability, and even looks given the odd looking nose on the little beast.
#10447 of 12297 Re: New C&D Mid-Price Family Sedans Comparo [lahiri]
Dec 27, 2006 (6:30 pm)
You can still visit the Honda dealer every 3K miles for an oil change too. Now why would you have to take it in every 3K to Saturn, Ford or Chrysler? The short interval period on oil changes is optional. A 10K oil change I assume for an Accord is for Mobil1 synthetic long term oil.
Honda makes good engines - great race engines - good products in general - and decent cars. Nothing too amazing about the Accord though, it is a solid car. The Civic to me feels wrong just sitting in the Coupe. Kinda feels like I would be driving a video game - where's the hood?
#10448 of 12297 Re: getting older [m1miata]
Dec 27, 2006 (7:00 pm)
Now, the Camry is overall a higher class of car than the Taurus (as far as ride, comfort, amenities, fuel economy, etc.) A lot has changed in the past 10-15 years. Reliability is not the only reason people choose the Camry, or Accord for that matter.
#10449 of 12297 Re: 2008 Hyundai Sonata Interior... [louiswei]
Dec 27, 2006 (7:39 pm)
Hate to ruin the fun, but this isn't the upcoming interior facelift for the Sonata. The actual interior will be better, based on what I've been told.
#10450 of 12297 Re: New C&D Mid-Price Family Sedans Comparo [m1miata]
Dec 27, 2006 (8:18 pm)
The short interval period on oil changes is optional. A 10K oil change I assume for an Accord is for Mobil1 synthetic long term oil.
Nope, 10k miles is normal schedule for 4-cylinder Accords, with regular dinosaur juice (plain oil). Now, the maintenance minder eliminates the need for the schedule. I have 5,900 miles on this particular oil, with 30% showing on my oil life.
I'm not sure of other maintenance schedule of vehicles in this thread.
#10451 of 12297 Re: New C&D Mid-Price Family Sedans Comparo [m1miata]
Dec 27, 2006 (8:21 pm)
Kinda feels like I would be driving a video game - where's the hood?
You're telling me you can see the a lot more of the hood on the other cars here? I'm 6'4" and can't even do that in my Accord. Seeing more of the hood doesn't help if you can't see the actual corners of the vehicle, meaning all of the hood (like you might could in a mid-80s Crown Vic for example).
#10452 of 12297 Re: New C&D Mid-Price Family Sedans Comparo [thegraduate]
Dec 27, 2006 (9:42 pm)
Interesting. The longest I ever went was 7,500 miles on dino oil, but I did not have an oil analyzer on the car. Using Mobil1 in the Miata, I once owned, I had the change done with Mobil1 at around 7,500 miles. You turn a lot and I mean a lot of RPM on fun runs, and general driving on those 1996 models. It was always buzzing.
Have you considered Mobil1?
I have heard of long intervals between oil changes in Europe. Some GM cars have this oil monitor too? How about the Swedes? I imagine Volvo has it. Will look into this element of the car before buying the next one. Right now I have the one car, a PT , and it has a recommended 3K or 6K miles between oil changes. Kinda a rough sounding engine, so yeah, it ain't no Honda engine quality. I bet the Ford, Toyota, and other cars talked about here can go a good 7,500 or more between changes, if not in a severe use environment. My PT is not a state-of-the-art powerplant, but it gets the job done.
#10453 of 12297 Re: New C&D Mid-Price Family Sedans Comparo [thegraduate]
Dec 27, 2006 (9:48 pm)
Oh, I think you should be able to see some hood. Yes, not all the hood, like the good old days. To see the corners would be good. All I ask in todays' cars is to see some hood, as in getting some idea of something up front and where it may possibly end. The new Civic Coupe looks great, but inside is just to strange for me. The long sloping A pillar with second support pillar (what to call that one?) which is way out front to me is distracting. If other adjust to it, so be it. Don't even care for these real thick pillars they have these days on most cars. The PT is a bit thick too.
The split duty dashboard command center on the Civic spaceship is kinda cool looking - in practice, I guess it is workable.
#10454 of 12297 Re: Camry Interior [leadfoot6]
Dec 27, 2006 (11:00 pm)
Looks like the Avenger may offer some hope in this class of Dodge/Chrysler. Better execution? From the photos, it looks more promising than is the Sebring. IMHO
Dec 27, 2006 (11:11 pm)
Hello Forum users!
I'm thinking about buying a Altima 3.5SE. That's 6-cyilinder as you all know. But My hubby worried about gas for that 6-cylinder and he wants to go with 4-cyilnder. Is it true that 6-cyilnder drinks the gas? Of course according to the mpg comparison, 6-cyil eats more than 4-cyil, but some people say that's not true in real driving. However, one of my friend who bought 4-cyil new Camry last month said she is re~~ally happy with economic fuel efficiency. She used to drive V6 Honda Accord (it might be an old car) and that was the car drank gas like a whale.
Please let me know if someone has an idea for real mpg efficiency.
Thank you so much.