Midsize Sedans Comparison Thread - READ ONLY

12297 messages,  Last post on Apr 13, 2007 at 12:55 PM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Subaru Legacy, Saturn Aura, Sedan

#10200 of 12297 Re: Mazda 6 vs. Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry [targettuning] by germancarfan1

Dec 21, 2006 (8:51 am)

Replying to: targettuning (Dec 21, 2006 8:18 am)
The guy doesn't need to provide you with an excuse. He doesn't want a Hyundai. Maybe it's based on a the sorid history of Hyundai, maybe it's because its predicted resale value isn't as good, maybe its because its IIHS crash test scores arn't spectacular, maybe it's something else. What evidence can you point to that a brand new Sonata won't suffer the same fate as one produced in 1999? JDPOWER's initial quality testing at 90 days? Automitive articles on how nice the Hyundai was when they drove it for 14.5 miles? Your anecdotal evidence on how your 2006 Civic was crap, therefore evey Honda is crap, thus Hyundai is somehow good (great logic)?
 
Hyundai is a brand, not a religion. It doesn't need to be prostelitized. You don't need to justify your purchase of the cheaper car by convincing others to do the same.

#10202 of 12297 Re: Mazda 6 vs. Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry [pat] by bobw3

Dec 21, 2006 (10:22 am)

Replying to: pat (Dec 21, 2006 10:13 am)
Bashing cars (or anything) is simply a sign of insecurity of the person doing the bashing. They might not be aware of it, but they're just unconsciously looking for approval. So someone bashing Hyundai is really wondering...hmmmm, maybe I could have saved thousands of dollars. Of course the bashers will always deny it, but the more they deny and argue the more insecure they really are. Holds true for any bashing, not bashing car makers.

#10203 of 12297 Re: Mazda 6 vs. Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry [bobw3] by germancarfan1

Dec 21, 2006 (10:25 am)

Replying to: bobw3 (Dec 21, 2006 10:22 am)
Actually, I own a 2004 Elantra. I've always been open and honest about that. Worst purchase decision ever.

#10204 of 12297 Re: Mazda 6 vs. Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry [germancarfan1] by targettuning

Dec 21, 2006 (10:26 am)

Replying to: germancarfan1 (Dec 21, 2006 8:51 am)
What!!!you again? I'm not asking for an excuse from him. Actually I'm not asking for anything. It was just a suggestion but you cannot even allow the very thought that someone might want to look at all possibilities including Hyundai. I for one am weary of your uninformed diatribe against Hyundai at every opportunity. With regard to my Honda, it isn't crap just a fairly big disappointment. It isn't only my ANECDOTAL evidence, please check the 2006 Civic owner site to see how many others aren't pleased. Honda is, in my opinion, a brand that is running on its previous great reputation AND becoming overpriced for the end product
 What SORDID history? please elaborate Since it would be a waste of time to point out to you Hyundai has a great reputation and it is getting better I won't...oops just did, my bad. And no matter how many times I point out to you that I have previously owned several Hyundai products with less problems between all three of them than the 2006 Honda Civic you still infer that this is faulty logic. It isn't based on logic at all but personal experience. What is "prostelitized"? it isn't in my Webster's. Take a deep breath and please stop frothing at the mouth!!!

#10205 of 12297 Re: Mazda 6 vs. Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry [pat] by germancarfan1

Dec 21, 2006 (10:29 am)

Replying to: pat (Dec 21, 2006 10:13 am)
How is it that: critical analysis of a brand = bashing? Which of my comments were misleading or incorrect? Where was there a personal attack? Where was it offtopic?
 
Maybe Edmunds forums would be more popular if the free flow of conversation wasn't stifled.

#10206 of 12297 Hold on, folks by pat

Dec 21, 2006 (10:32 am)

This is getting out of hand. Let's get back to the cars and leave ALL of the bashing outside - brands and people.

#10207 of 12297 Re: Mazda 6 vs. Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry [germancarfan1] by shado4

Dec 21, 2006 (10:40 am)

Replying to: germancarfan1 (Dec 21, 2006 10:29 am)
How is it that: critical analysis of a brand = bashing?
Critical analysis of a brand may not be considered bashing. However, critical analysis of a brand ad nauseum as you constantly do against Hyundai IS bashing. Everyone knows of your hatred of Hyundai, and quite frankly, it's getting really old.
 
Any time someone tries to say something nice about Hyundai you can count on germancarfan to immediately go on the attack.

#10208 of 12297 Re: Mazda 6 vs. Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry [shado4] by pat

Dec 21, 2006 (10:42 am)

Replying to: shado4 (Dec 21, 2006 10:40 am)
We need to get back to the cars, please.

#10209 of 12297 Edmunds forecast for 2007 by pat

Dec 21, 2006 (11:10 am)

Have you folks seen this? Edmunds.com forecasts 2007 automotive trends
 
It has some relevance to what we've been discussing even though it's across the vehicle spectrum.

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