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Ford Mustang, Chevrolet Corvette, Coupe
May 17, 2005 (8:14 am)
The Mustang wasn't in my view at the time, actually as noted elsewhere on Edmunds I was lusting after an XK8 but at 6' 3" I couldn't get in the car and spent 9 months looking for the alternative. The Corvette wasn't even on my radar until one of our Plant Managers' who drives one noted that we made a key component for the Active Handling and I should "buy the product", like if I don't, who will? That got me to test drive one and that was all it took.
Our daughter, out of college, got her own 2000 Mustang GT, Lazer Red with tan top and interior and I actually loved to drive it. With Flow Masters the common comment to me, was, 'is yours running'? The neighbors didn't think it was an issue so it was always nice when we heard her about a block away. Great sound, I grew up a Ford guy and then went to the dark side.
Also having the one kid out of school and only two of us at home getting a two seater made great good sense. Did I mention it gets good mileage.
Please note, the wife now has her 2004 to go with my 2002 and we love corrupting all the local kids who see mostly MB and BMW around the neighborhood.
#27 of 109 Will have to drive an '05 Stang some day.
May 17, 2005 (2:02 pm)
The '05 Stang looks pretty cool, but is perhaps a bit too retro and getting fatter every model up. Unless it is worlds different in handling, I would be more apt to buy a '98 GT(beautiful styling) or maybe one the flat sides '99-04 before getting something which may look more like a replicar. Not that is looks bad. Just my opion that retro styling hints are a good thing, but when it gets close enough why not get the real deal, as in 1968 car complete with chrome bumpers, and no fat lower lip sticking out front. Looks wise and performance wise, how can you beat a C5 Vette? Are they as practical; well likely not. They are beautiful cars, and it would be fun to be in a Corvette Club. That said, there are Mustang Clubs, the car sits higher, so it is easier to see around in traffic, and it is easier to be seen, and parts are cheaper. Buying a Stang for everyday use is a better choice. I love the sound that the GT puts out. The V6 with a proper setup sounds fair - actually the new Stang in V6 is better without mods. The new one is overpriced for GTs as there is limited supply. I would wait, if buying new, for the '06 and lower prices ahead. As for the article about the cool tach and speedometer, I do wonder how they could like it. The view is obstructed by the steering wheel. When they spread the two out, and put other gages in-between they screwed up the view. The old look, with the rounded dash looks much better anyway. And what is with the flat dash? I had that on my '65 Stang/Falcon original. It is 2005 get over it, and move on. I say, try a Stang a few years older, save $10 to 15K and buy more gas.
#28 of 109 Re: [graphicguy]
May 18, 2005 (8:52 am)
....."If you want a good looking, high performance, well put together muscle car, then the choice is the Mustang. There's nothing in between unless you want to get into the 350Zs, RX8s, Audi TTs, etc......"
You forgot the GTO on that list which is actually just as cheap as the Mustang Dollar per horsepower. Both about $83 per horsepower. 350z, RX8, Audi TT are NOT musclecars. Real musclecars have a V8 engine.
#29 of 109 Re: Will have to drive an '05 Stang some day. [m1miata]
May 18, 2005 (8:56 am)
It's ok, but I'm not a fan of the retro look, if you wanted that buy a 1967 or 1968. Better to wait till 2006 to get a better price as demand drops and all the bugs get worked out of a first year model. Speaking of fatter... the GT500 for 2006 gains another 200+ pounds over regular Mustang GT. it will be nearly 3600+ lbs. I rented a V6 Stang in Vegas and was not impressed, could have used more power and the Explorer Derived V6 is on the crude-loud-unrefined sound when you are hard on the gas. The V8 is awesome, what a big dif. It should have ONLY come with the V8. The only way to go is the V8 for a Mustang, otherwise don't buy it. My opinion. The sad part is that 66% of 2004 Mustangs were V6.
#30 of 109 Re: [shill]
May 18, 2005 (10:13 am)
Most people don't cross shop the Mustang and Corvette. $25k vs $45k. I wanted a Corvette and would have bought, but needed a backseat so I ended up with the GTO which has the same 400hp LS2 and drivetrain from Vette. In the end I saved over $10k vs a Vette.
#31 of 109 He said used Vette
May 18, 2005 (12:52 pm)
He wanted to buy a new Stang or a used Vette. I would buy a used Stang. No reason to lose serious money as cars value takes a big hit, especially in the first two years time. As for the GTO, it may be an excellent used car. I still see no reason to pay $13,ooo for a larger engine. Would be a great car in the low 20k's to maybe 25K if ya need a larger engine to drag race on Saturday or something. I saw a Corvette for $39,999 last year as a close-out. That was around $4k off. I think the GTO last year was something like $5k off, which helps, though it is now a $21K trade-in value. Hope no one paid $5k over sticker, as they would feel pretty foolish around now. I can't see paying $25 to $32K for Mustang GTs, but to each his own. You can get pretty low mileage use Stangs for $15k to $20K. Heck, you may find a good lower mileage GT for around $12K as a private buy. - Loren
#32 of 109 Re: He said used Vette [m1miata]
May 18, 2005 (1:32 pm)
Loren....while I don't expect it to last, even used '05 Mustang GTs are fetching MSRP. My dealer tells me he's sold out of the first few months of '06 GT stock by people who couldn't get '05s. So, at least for the next serveral months, Mustang GTs will be in tight supply. Invariably, there will be a price increase for the '06s and Ford has already had a price increase since I ordered mine in Feb.
So, for '05s and at least part of '06, used ones on the new platform should hold their value very well.
I almost jumped on an '04 'vette towards the end of last year because they could be had for under $40K. But, I'm just as happy with the Mustang.
#33 of 109 Re: He said used Vette [m1miata]
May 18, 2005 (6:07 pm)
Some have recently bought leftover 2004 GTO's for as low as $21k, great deal on a basically new 350hp car. Same thing, people that had to have GTO when it first came out were paying over MSRP, crazy! Just like some of the Mustang V8 owners now paying MSRP or higher. Crazy.
Never pay MSRP for a car and never will. Wait for the 2nd or 3rd year when popularity drops and prices drop/incentives increase and the bugs of a 1st yr are worked out. But you are right, to each their own!
#34 of 109 Re: He said used Vette [442man]
May 19, 2005 (4:08 am)
I see a gradual swing towards manufacturer's sticking to MSRP pricing. Just look at Scion and Mini....or any of the hybrids (including the Escape hybrid), MSRP is what you pay.
I think because the Mustang GT is such a good car for such a good price, for that reason alone, you may not see much in the way of discounting in the foreseeable future. There's just no need since it offers so much at MSRP.
My current "to the airport and back....hauling duties" car is a Vibe. I'm looking at a Scion Xb for no other reason that it gives me even more hauling capabilities and good MPG, that I might trade the Vibe for one.....AT MSRP, since it's such a good deal at that price.
'04 'vettes were screaming bargains at under $40K last year. I think even at $45K+ for the '05s, is a good deal. The Mustang GT fits into the same category. You just can't find that blend of performance, utility, style, ride, handling, build at anywhere near it's price. That's why they've been selling so tremendously.
#35 of 109 Re: He said used Vette [graphicguy]
May 19, 2005 (7:00 pm)
Um no.. you can get a 2004 GTO with a 350hp 5.7L V8 for $22k or less and it has a backseat. That is the ultimate deal out there. Yes it can seat 4 adults comfortable unlike a Mustang.
2005 Mustang GT will drop about 50% retail in the next 3 to 5 yrs like typical American cars. Sorry but, Consumer reports like me found it's interior to be cheap hard plastics-cheapness, that is why it starts at $19k. Esp that hard plastic flat interior. Have the 2005 GTO, interior/seats much nicer just as Car and Driver found them over the Mustang.