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You are in the Ford Mustang
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Ford Mustang, Pontiac GTO, Coupe, Convertible
May 13, 2005 (10:12 am)
Even though a lot more Mustangs are on the roads than GTOs, the GTOs are still not as noticeable. Whenever I do see a GTO, I have to look really hard; "is that a GTO?" But when you see a Mustang at any distance from any angle, it is instantly recognizeable. I bet many people don't even notice the GTO as being different from a 1998 Grand Prix, but everyone knows the Mustang.
"Hey is that a Grand Prix? ....no, I mean a G6?...no, I mean a Grand Am?. ...aww, heck .....is that a new GM car?
Hey, and it's got a Corvette engine in it....how original....shoehorn the biggest engine you can find into the engine bay and sell it.
Gotta hand it to GM for spending all those late nights in the engineering department.
Sure, the same can attempted to be said about the new Mustang. (no engineering went into it because they copied an old design), but deep down beneath the outer shell is an entirely new beast. (Except I hope they are still using the Fram PH8A oil filter..)
Hat's off to Ford for bringing back an icon and doing such a great job with it.
Ok, having said that...I'm just enjoying the fact that there is even a thread called Mustang vs GTO
....how cool is that!! ......just like the old days
maybe Ford will shoehorn in a 429 Boss and then we can REALLY start to chat!
#549 of 2056 Re: Most Appealing Sporty Car, GTO [stang22]
May 13, 2005 (2:55 pm)
Actually I believe the Corvette is America's TOP selling sportscar. Arguably the best sports car you can get for $45k or less. The Mustang is NOT a sports car. Has a backseat. It's a sportycar/pony car.
As for the Car and Driver Mustang Vs GTO comparo, the Mustang Only beat the GTO by 1 point, 211 to 210, could have gone either way. Mustang only won because of the got to have factor which gave C&D a lot of negative letters. GTO won most of the performance categories. I believe it was 128 PRO GTO to 2 Pro mustang over that comparo in terms of letters C&D got back. I wouldn't consider C&D to be internationally reputed. They are very biased on advertisers and foreign/Japanese cars.
#550 of 2056 Re: Most Appealing Sporty Car, GTO [benderofbows]
May 13, 2005 (2:59 pm)
........"Even though a lot more Mustangs are on the roads than GTOs, the GTOs are still not as noticeable. Whenever I do see a GTO, I have to look really hard; "is that a GTO?"......."
Everywhere I go, people stare at my GTO. I have gotten many questions/compliments at traffic lights etc or when I park at store etc. All the car shows/cruise nights I visit I get just as many people checking out my GTO and asking me questions as the 2005 Mustang guys. It stands out better then some think. I get along with the mustang guys quite well. We have mutual respect for each other's cars. They are both great cars.
#551 of 2056 Re: Most Appealing Sporty Car, GTO [442man]
May 13, 2005 (6:53 pm)
You need to re-read my last post,it says the '05 mustang as the top american muscle car.It did not say sports car,like the corvette,that you implied!! Try glasses,they work better!! People in general love the new Mustang GT alot more than the gto!! Sales alone reflect that,much less just about all forums across the web,magazines,editors,mass public opinion,etc.,etc.,!! Shelby Mustang will take care of the vette next year,and gm will lose all the way across the board!!
#552 of 2056 05 Mustang GT 1/4 mile times
May 13, 2005 (8:04 pm)
I was at the track tonite with my 04 GTO A4. Their was an 05 GT racing and I have seen a few others run at other trips to the track. I have yet to see one break 14 sec. Most are around 14.40. I see these Magazine claims and internet claims of 13.6. As I said I haven't seen it, maybe every GT I've seen has been purchased by a person who can't drive. My slightly modded GTO ran a 13.58.
#553 of 2056 Re: 05 Mustang GT 1/4 mile times [brushbandit]
May 14, 2005 (5:34 am)
Depends on the driver/track/weather conditions. The best I have seen on STOCK 2005 Mustangs is the high 13's. 13.8 ish. I have seen stock 2005 GTO's run under 13.2, best I saw in person was 13.186.
#554 of 2056 Re: Most Appealing Sporty Car, GTO [stang22]
May 14, 2005 (5:44 am)
Shelby Mustang? Anyone that will spend $40k+ for a Mustang, especially one with a solid rear axle needs to have their head examined. Several Current Mustang owners I know have said this as well. Not just me.
Dissappointment in the Shelby GT500 The car was designed for an IRS - there were prototypes of it running around. And all the early Shelby prototypes were running around on one as well (pics exist). It's only at the last moment that it was removed for the cheaper "hundred year old" alternative by the bean counters at Ford.
Regardless, an IRS was planned right from the start for this platform, engineered, and only cancelled (or put off?) at the last moment.
#555 of 2056 GT500 gaining 350lbs in front[stang22]
May 14, 2005 (5:47 am)
The GT500 is going to gain 350 pounds of weight ALL UP FRONT and have it's balance thrown off to 58% front and 42% rear. It will be nearly 3873 pounds with driver or more!
Minimum price of $40k to $45k range, Gas guzzler fee and HUGE dealer markups.
Rather have $25k Stang with V8.
#556 of 2056 Re: This is great..... [graphicguy]
May 14, 2005 (6:06 am)
as far as sales are concerned there are over 150 2005 mustang gt on order already paid for in this area alone (schweinfurt, germany) with NO gto on order. i have not seen a single gto in germany since they came out in 2004 and i haven't seen any in south western ohio (except mine) while i was home in march. as far as price i picked my gto up for just under 27k. even though it was a 2004 it had the hood/front facia/sport spoiler installed by the dealership to spice it up. it would be nice to see them sell more but if not, mt car will be one of a kind when the stang gt is just one of many different colors. for the price the reason it cost so much is cause its imported from australia. and besides the gto is in a different class than the mustang any ways. the mustang is a "sport car" and the gto is a "muscle car" that is why gm is bringing back the camaro in 2007 giving it design highlights of the 67-69 era. but all in all i would rather have a one of a kind car than compared to what everyone else has.
#557 of 2056 Re: Most Appealing Sporty Car, GTO [benderofbows]
May 14, 2005 (6:37 am)
I didn't mean to bad mouth anyone's personal car. I was just pointing out the commonality of the Mustang. Say, you don't live in San Jose do you?
Yes, GM mass produces cars. Afterall, it is the largest automobile company. They tend to be a little more upscale than Ford though. I think though, that GM might be heading in the wrong direction. For instance, in last Sunday's paper, out of two local GM dealers, only one even bothered to advertise. And aside from used cars, it only advertised four models, and they were all Yukons. What on earth can they be thinking? If GM doesn't start getting it right then it could lose out to Toyota which is definitely guning for GM. Ford would have to have a dozen 'homeruns' like the Mustang to catch up to GM. Unfortunately, that may not have to happen if GM keeps stumbling.