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Ford Mustang (2005) vs. 2005 Pontiac GTO

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#240 of 2056 410hp SC Vortech stang similar to GTO by gunit

Apr 22, 2005 (6:04 am)

Replying to: benderofbows (Apr 21, 2005 12:08 pm)
I believe Motor Trend just tested a 2005 Mustang GT with a Vortech supercharger that was making 410 horsepower. Guess what? The 0-60 and 1/4 mile time were not much faster then a stock GTO. Here were the test results from the magazine for the Votech GT
 
410hp Vortech Mustang GT from Motor Trend
0-60mph in 4.6 seconds
1/4 mile 13 seconds at 108.5 mph
 
400hp GTO STOCK!! From Pontiac/GM Brochure
0-60mph in 4.6 seconds
1/4 mile 13 seconds at 108mph
 

#241 of 2056 No IRS on $45k GT500 by gunit

Apr 22, 2005 (6:08 am)

I read that the new GT500 which will be priced from $40k to $45k will still feature a SOLID rear axle, Ford Cost cutting. Ford said that the better handling that IRS axle would allow was NOT enough to overcome the extra cost associated with it, so they will stick with the solid rear.
 
Yes every car mfg does cost cuts on their cars, but no IRS on a $45k car?? Even the $35k or less Cobra had IRS.

#242 of 2056 sputterguy by rorr

Apr 22, 2005 (6:11 am)

I know we're probably getting more and more off topic, but....
 
I did some further checking regarding the 427 in the early Shelby GT500's. In 1967, all GT500's had the 428. Apparantly, in 1968, three (3) early GT500's left the factory with 427 sideoilers; the remainder had the 428. In mid-1968, production switched to the 428CJ (for the GT500KR models). Also, there were apparently NO dealer installed 427's in lieu of the factory 428 (although a number of cars later had the 428's pulled in favor of 427's but this was after delivery to the owner). I don't have access to my copy of the Shelby America Registry anymore so I can't confirm the three cars receiving factory 427's in 1968 or what their vin #'s were.
 
Lord, I wonder what THOSE three cars would be worth today if properly documented

#243 of 2056 Re: Gunit [benderofbows] by gunit

Apr 22, 2005 (6:17 am)

Replying to: benderofbows (Apr 21, 2005 7:06 am)
Leftovers are good, usually you get a good deal, did that on a few of my cars. You didn't want to wait for the 2005 stang though? I almost did the same thing with the GTO, I wanted a 2004, but then I heard they were doing the scoupes, extra 50hp, bigger brakes, double exhaust outlets etc for 2005 so I waited. Besides dealers were trying to put outrageous markups on 2004 at first, LOL! Good thing I waited.

#244 of 2056 Re: FR500C/GT500 vs. GTO-R [sputterguy] by benderofbows

Apr 22, 2005 (6:23 am)

Replying to: sputterguy (Apr 21, 2005 5:50 pm)
Yea I suppose you are right sputter, Carroll Shelby obviously just totally screwed the new one up didn't he. I mean, they shouldn't have even let him near the thing, huh. What was he thinking / what an idiot. Maybe Ford should not have renewed their relationship with him at all, he is obviously blind or crazy to think that his new GT500 is appealing to the eye. They should have made him just go somewhere and wait to die instead of giving him the opportunity with the design process for the new Cobra and GT500. I bet you could do better with a "bland" modern coupe in your backyard. Oh yea I forgot, these modern coupes are supposed to bland, they aren't supposed to have style. The GT500 shouldn't have stripes to remind you of Shelby's fabulous racing history. It shouldn't have scoops to allude to the powerful motor (doesn't the new GTO have scoops?) and certainly no ground effects to help reduce lift. Ford should have just made a 2-door Taurus and put the S/C 5.4 in that and called that the GT500, with only some badges. That would have made Carroll Shelby proud. And, no one would know there were GT500s around again until they got right up on one. Sounds great.

#245 of 2056 Re: 410hp SC Vortech stang similar to GTO [gunit] by rorr

Apr 22, 2005 (6:26 am)

Replying to: gunit (Apr 22, 2005 6:04 am)
Now you're comparing test results from a magazine against the quoted times in a brochure?
 
Wouldn't it be at least somewhat better to compare M/T's results for the Mustang with the Vortech against M/T's results for the '05 GTO?

#246 of 2056 Re: Gunit [gunit] by benderofbows

Apr 22, 2005 (6:28 am)

Replying to: gunit (Apr 22, 2005 6:17 am)
My fiancee just bought the 2004 this weekend! Only one left within about 200 miles. Plenty of 2005's everywhere. I loved the 2005 and was set to buy one of those, it would not have been that much more expensive. But she was so sentimentally attached to her old one that she wanted another one like it. She did not care about the new chassis and improved engines and transmissions, etc. Just liked the look of hers. Women! Well, at least she likes cars.
 
I made myself feel better about her decision by noting that the 2004 Mustangs were ranked higher for reliability than any other American car for in Consumer Reports, and the new ones have had a few of the typical first-model-year Ford quirks. And, when it comes time to trade my Explorer, I can get what I want without listening to her! LOL

#247 of 2056 Re: This is great..... [tayl0rd] by gunit

Apr 22, 2005 (6:37 am)

Replying to: tayl0rd (Apr 21, 2005 7:45 am)
tayl0rd writes.....And about that interior and the car not being worth $40K; have you even seen pictures of the GT500?......
 
Even Better I saw the GT500 upclose in person at the NY autoshow , big crowd around it Red with white stripes even better then pictures. Nice car, but not worth $40k to $45k to me in my opinion. To you or others it might be. Thats cool.
 
In Austrailia they make a $45k version of the GTO, extra features, but still that would not be worth it to me either. To much $$

#248 of 2056 Re: This is great..... [gunit] by benderofbows

Apr 22, 2005 (6:45 am)

Replying to: gunit (Apr 22, 2005 6:37 am)
I drove a V6 and really liked it. They now have the tourquey engine from my Explorer. Felt very fast in the Mustang, as fast as some of the older V8 Automatics. I have heard that with a manual, V6s are getting to 60 in about 7 seconds flat. That's not bad for $19k.
 
Hey, there was a V6 in the original Mustang. Why can't they offer one now?

#249 of 2056 Re: 410hp SC Vortech stang similar to GTO [rorr] by gunit

Apr 22, 2005 (6:52 am)

Replying to: rorr (Apr 22, 2005 6:26 am)
I don't think Motor Trend tested a 2005 GTO yet, only the 2004 model which had 50 less horse. I betcha the stock GTO is almost as fast as the Vortch GT with 410hp. With 1 or 2 tenths, close.

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