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Ford Mustang (2005) vs. 2005 Pontiac GTO

2056 messages,  Last post on May 27, 2009 at 5:34 PM

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What is this discussion about? Ford Mustang, Pontiac GTO, Coupe, Convertible

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#2038 of 2056 Re: Where the GTO missed the boat. [mschmal] by vertical3

Sep 07, 2007 (8:10 am)

Replying to: mschmal (Sep 07, 2007 4:34 am)
Coming in 2010:
 
The Boss is a forthcoming large-displacement V8 engine project at Ford Motor Company. The engine project was reportedly cancelled in 2005 as the company focused on its existing Triton V8 and V10, but was reportedly[1] revived in early 2006 by Mark Fields. The large engine will compete with DaimlerChrysler's new Hemi and General Motors' large Vortec engines.
 
The Boss engine will reportedly displace 6.2 L (379 in³, 6208 cc) upon introduction, with the ability to exceed 7.0 L in future applications, and produce more than 425 hp (317 kW) and 425 ft·lbf (576 N·m). It has been rumored that a smaller 5.8 L (355 in³, 5814 cc) version will be developed for a special edition 2009 Ford Mustang and is expected to be the standard V8 engine for the 2010 or 2011 Ford Mustang. The Boss V8s will be built at Cleveland Engine in Cleveland, Ohio. The first application will be Ford's F-Series pickup trucks produced at Dearborn Truck. It has been rumored that the Boss will retain many of the Modular V8 design cues such as a deep skirt block with cross bolted main caps, oiling system design, and overhead camshaft valve train arrangement. The Boss' single most significant departure from the Modular V8 will be the significantly wider 4.53 in (115 mm) bore centerline. It has been rumored that the 6.2 L will employ a 4.015 in (102 mm) bore diameter and a 3.74 in (95 mm) stroke to achieve it's displacement while the 5.8 L version will retain the 6.2 L's bore diameter but employ a shorter 3.503 in (89 mm) stroke. The initial versions of the Boss will have two-valves-per-cylinder, two spark-plugs per cylinder and likely employ a form of cylinder or valve deactivation for increased fuel economy. Later high-performance versions will be equipped with DOHC, four-valves-per-cylinder and Gasoline direct injection (GDI). There are rumors of a 6.2 L, DOHC, four-valves-per-cylinder, twin-turbo, GDI version of the Boss already under development.
 
Initial information on valve size, puts the intake valve at 2.10" and 1.65" exhaust [2]
 
The engine was initially called the "Hurricane", but this was changed in mid 2006 to the storied Boss name[3] in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.
 
We wait and see......

#2039 of 2056 Re: Where the GTO missed the boat. [vertical3] by akirby

Sep 07, 2007 (8:18 am)

Replying to: vertical3 (Sep 07, 2007 8:10 am)
It's definitely coming, just not 100% sure of the timing and applications.
 
I have a hard time believing it will be THE standard V8 engine for the mustang, though.

#2040 of 2056 Re: Where the GTO missed the boat. [vertical3] by jae5

Sep 07, 2007 (10:59 am)

Replying to: vertical3 (Sep 07, 2007 8:10 am)
...with the ability to exceed 7.0 L in future applications, and produce more than 425 hp (317 kW) and 425 ft·lbf (576 N·m). It has been rumored that a smaller 5.8 L (355 in³, 5814 cc) version will be developed for a special edition 2009 Ford Mustang and is expected to be the standard V8 engine for the 2010 or 2011 Ford Mustang.
 
Boss 429 & 351 (well 355) reborn? Can we see a hi-po 289 soon?

#2041 of 2056 Re: Back To the Topic [whatsachevy] by 2k05gt

Feb 13, 2008 (7:12 am)

Replying to: whatsachevy (Mar 08, 2006 8:28 pm)
The reason for the demise of the GTO was not it's lack of power or handling, It was because it looks like a jelly bean,
The same for the 4th Gen Camaro, Why did it Die, the sales for the last 5 years were declining by 20% each year until 2002 the sales were less than 45000 even when the Mustang was still selling 150000. Lets face it the Camaro had the power, 350 ponies it was a fast car, but it looked like crap, it was a corvette little brother wanabe not a muscle car. GM lost both because of looks, not power or interior. The Mustang has always out sold the Camaro, why? it's not power.

#2042 of 2056 HatsOff to Ford ---Knight Rider TV Show---Shelby Mustang Cobra500 KR...by by mparis1

Feb 17, 2008 (8:22 pm)

What a great advertising coupe for Ford...constant advertising for Ford Mustang.........................GM.....................you should be ashamed.......................the GTO is dead ....long live the Camaro............if they ever build it.....bye bye my sweet little GTO...all that is left is the 60s song...and the movie "two lane blacktop"

#2043 of 2056 we'll always have paris by elias

Feb 18, 2008 (7:13 pm)

don't be too glum, mon petit chou-chou mparis.
the new camaro sure does look nice.
hey'd have to be crazy not to build it.
 
oh oh.

#2044 of 2056 Re: HatsOff to Ford ---Knight Rider TV Show---Shelby Mustang Cobra500 KR...by [mparis1] by waterdr

Feb 25, 2008 (10:10 pm)

Replying to: mparis1 (Feb 17, 2008 8:22 pm)
I own a 400 rwhp Mustang and have driven a GTO a few times, so I feel I have a good comparison.
 
The GTO looks bland as hell, but is a real joy to drive. I find the GTO to a be a real bargin in the after-market, because they were such slow sellers. The GTO seems to me to be more refined and better as a DD then a Mustang. I was actually thrilled with the car after poking fun at it for so long.
 
MSRP vs MSRP, I would choose Mustang, but the deals on these GTO's are really somthing.
 
Also, if you wish to mod, I would think the Mustang would be a lot cheaper to mod due to a much larger after-market and many years experience with the 4.6 and millions of them on the road vs may 50,000 of the GTO's.

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