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Ford Mustang (2005) vs. 2005 Pontiac GTO

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Re: feel badly.... [brushbandit] by mike189
Apr 07, 2007 (10:00 pm)
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Replying to: brushbandit (Apr 12, 2005 3:13 pm)

YOU ARE CONCERNED VERY MUCH SO IF GM IS PAYING ATTENTION ,BUT ARE YOU???????????? FORD IS CLOSE TO BANKRUPTCY,THEY JUST SOLD ASTON MARKET AS A DITCH EFFORT TO HAVE CASH ,WHATS NEXT JAGUAR,VOLVO ?????????????
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Re: feel badly.... [mike189] by vertical3
Apr 08, 2007 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: mike189 (Apr 07, 2007 10:00 pm)

Interesting.....I don't argue the Beemer makes a great vehicle (and a great bike as well), the 6 series is a stunner!. Depends on what you're looking for in a car (street racer v. rally racer) and how many $$$$ you wanna drop. But.....take the BMW into the maintenance department and feel the life force sucked out of your wallet.
 
BTW, the BMW SUV's are American made so following the tradition of U.S. v. European made quality, the BMW may start to get a little tarnished (their X3 has taken some serious flak for QA).
 
Still think the GT is a great bargain for the fun and options to upgrade.
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Re: feel badly.... [graphicguy] by isa6016
May 15, 2007 (5:00 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Apr 12, 2005 2:34 pm)

"feel badly" is what people say who think they "get" grammar but don't. You are just as deluded about cars. A few years ago when I saw the concept Mustang, I was quite interested. But the reality is borderline ugly. The GTO is a classic, understated beauty. Riddle me this: Why are Mustang GTs constantly pulling next to me revving their engines, begging to get their butt kicked? (I generally ignore them, eat your heart out, dude.) My guess: A great big inferiority complex. There is no comparison between that failing Edsel corporation and GM either.
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Re: feel badly.... [isa6016] by vertical3
May 15, 2007 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: isa6016 (May 15, 2007 5:00 am)

Again, why did GM short change you guys on safety (no side bags) and what every other GTO had in the past (full gauge cluster). Why has it been dropped by GM? Do you think that it will really be back in 09 given the new G8 as well as rising fuel prices?
 
Hey, I'll be honest and say that I often 2nd guess myself on bypassing the Pontiac, more out of the fact I see so few of them compared to GT's, but you be honest....IF they did not come with the vette motor and gearbox but the 350 that was in the late 90's Impala SS, would you still have bought one?
 
Would you buy a vette other than a ZO6? I've added some toys to the GT and it's just enough to get me in trouble both with the law and my health insurance provider. It's a year old Sunday and has 4600 miles on it. For me it takes me back to my teen years, for my 12 y/o it's just the quality time with Dad he wants (and needs). Enjoy your GTO, I enjoy my GT.
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Re: feel badly.... [isa6016] by akirby
May 15, 2007 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: isa6016 (May 15, 2007 5:00 am)

At least a Mustang can't be mistaken for a Pontiac Sunfire.
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GT-Ooohhhh... by schufflerbot
May 15, 2007 (10:36 am)
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to compare the GTO to the mustang GT is absolutely unfair to the GT. the GTO is a far superior machine, for far fewer dollars and the general public does not know that.
 
which is just the way i like it.
 
i cannot count the number of 'stangs that have tried and failed to keep up with me on the road/track, regardless of surface conditions or road layout.
 
I have quite the history with mustangs, owned a couple, helped friends modify a couple, assisted in purchases for family, etc.
 
when i heard the GTO i was sold.
 
when i saw it...
 
i bought one.
 
any car can be made to go fast, stock for stock and dollar for dollar - you wont find a better deal than a GTO.
 
i have the utmost respect for mustangs and always will. i never write one off until shes a dot in my rearview mirror, but for people to say that an 05 stang GT is a better car than a 2005 6.0 GTO...
 
is just plain silly.
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Re: GT-Ooohhhh... [schufflerbot] by gzgtp
May 16, 2007 (4:35 am)
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Replying to: schufflerbot (May 15, 2007 10:36 am)

Is GM still making the GTO? I looked at one a couple of years ago and thought I was looking at a family car from a distance, except that it had no trunk space. Hopefully GM has some creative designers lined up for the next version. There is no excuse for it's bland look.
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Re: feel badly.... [vertical3] by isa6016
May 16, 2007 (5:16 am)
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Replying to: vertical3 (May 15, 2007 6:10 am)

vertical 3, the tone of your post showed intelligence. The side bags are why there is no 2007 GTO, the cost to develop them on existing platform (to match new fed requirements) too expensive. They will be on Camaro, 2009 GTO if there is one. Personally, I do not care. As far as GTO gauges, I had a new 1985 Camaro, then 1998 Camaro, and never, not once, saw oil pressure drop, so I do not miss that gauge. Battery voltage is helpful to know, but it is definitely not a big deal to me. The interior and gauge arrangement is beautiful, I have heard or read it often said that GTO has the most perfect interior of any GM car, and since that includes Cadillac and Buick, that is saying ALOT. Read an excellent analysis by Mike5215 here:
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156705&page=2
It is hard for me to say how much the ls2 affected my decision, I just stopped by Pontiac dealer to kill time, not even thinking of GTOs, salesman saw me just admiring it, not even next to it, had not said a single word about it, offered me a test drive, from then on I could not rest until I had one. Best car decision I ever made by far.
Vettes do not interest me, not even the Z06. They are amazing, but I prefer the GTO, understated but striking appearance, comfort, stance.
I really like your close: You enjoy your GT, I'll enjoy my GTO. That is what the car thing is all about. Still think you made a mistake, though.
schufflerbot, you rock.

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