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Ford Mustang, Pontiac GTO, Coupe, Convertible
#162 of 2056 FR500C/GT500 vs. GTO-R
Apr 18, 2005 (9:26 am)
The Ford 5.4 Liter Modular V-8 in the 2000 Ford SVT Mustang Cobra R made 385 hp and tq, propelling the vehicle to 60 in 4.5 seconds, to 100 in 10.5 seconds, and through the quarter mile in 12.9 sec 113 mph, on the way to a top speed of 175 mph. And, the car pulled 1.01g on the skidpad.
The new GT500 will use a supercharged version of this 5.4 MOD V8 tuned to produce over 450 hp and tq, and have the same architechure as the FR500C race car which recently won the Grand Am Cup at Daytona (with a 5.0 Cammer V8).
With Carroll Shelby's name on it, you know it will be more than a match for the upcoming GTO-R.
#163 of 2056 Re: numbers...... [benderofbows]
Apr 18, 2005 (9:33 am)
bend....couldn't agree more. That's why I believe there's been so praise written about the Mustang. As a performance car package, it has been a watershed car in, at least, the '05 iteration of the Mustang.
Ford did so many things right with the new Mustang....from styling, to build quality, to the suspension, to performance, to the driving experience, etc when compared to its competition.
This is one of the few times where the marketplace has agreed with the press in what constitutes a "hit" car.
Mattrer of fact, one of the Edmunds test team went so far as to say......
"I drove the new 2005 Corvette the same day I drove the Mustang and I like the Mustang much better. The interior is nearly perfect — the adjustable gauge colors are a nice touch."
Mighty high praise. I can just imagine what they'll say about the GT500 when it goes up against the Z06 Corvette.
Cool pics, too! Thanks!
#164 of 2056 Re: numbers...... [graphicguy]
Apr 18, 2005 (10:18 am)
Yea, that's exactly what C&D was getting at in their article; even though the GTO won some of the acceleration tests, they felt the Mustang was "the total package" and "more than just the sum of its' parts."
I've heard alot of editors state that the Mustang is the most fun to drive, even more so than the Corvette.
#165 of 2056 Re: Another good C&D comparo quote [benderofbows]
Apr 18, 2005 (10:24 am)
Looks are subjective. It's in the eye of the beholder, I like the GTO you don't. Thats cool.
NO, NOT ALL 1960's cars are cool, Corvair, etc. You certainly don't want to have a accident in one, minimal safety equipment, no seat belts std until 1967, brakes that don't even come close to stopping like a modern car. Massive brake fade from 4 drums. Not to mention the skinnier tires and crappier handling. On avg they were not EVEN CLOSE to being as nice to drive as modern cars.
I love classic and antique cars and own some including '58 Chevy, but they aren't as cool as you think. Esp when having to do work, parts etc.
#166 of 2056 C&D said GTO more fun to drive then Stang Quote
Apr 18, 2005 (10:28 am)
Benderofbows said.........I've heard alot of editors state that the Mustang is the most fun to drive, even more so than the Corvette.........
Not Car and Driver, which said......With 6.0 liters of power, it won most of the performance tests as well as the fun-to-drive category,
C&D said the GTO was more fun to drive then Mustang, Nuff said.
Apr 18, 2005 (10:29 am)
My sister has a 65 Mustang....that's turned into a maintenance nightmare for her. Biggest problem is that although they are very simple by today's standards, no one wants to touch it to do work on it. You'd think parts would be cheap for such a simple car, but they've ended up being very expensive because some parts have to be custom built.
#168 of 2056 Re: gunit [graphicguy]
Apr 18, 2005 (10:35 am)
At least she does not have a 1965 Studebaker, it would be much harder. I can still find and get parts for my 1958 Chevy. It is harder then a newer or 10 yr old car. Some company's make newer parts which don't always fit well or work well either. I try to find NOS, new old stock, I have a lot of parts for the 1958, but still I had to have the speedometer rebuilt on it last summer, crapped out, not the cable, it was the speedo, that was a small fortune to fix, but it works great.
Apr 18, 2005 (10:52 am)
I've been tempted to buy the '65 Mustang from my sister several times. But, as soon as I get ready to pull the trigger, she informs me of something simple the car needs (last thing was a new passenger seat track, which had to be custom fabricated) that ends up costing an arm and a leg.
I would imagine the '58 Chevy, since it is so desireable, would have plenty of places to get parts for.
I thought that would be true for the '65 Mustang, too. But, my sister must not be plugged into the right places.
Apr 18, 2005 (11:13 am)
As for sales of GTO, my dealer had 3 when I bought mine, all 3 sold the same week I bought mine which was about 3 weeks ago. The dealer said they will NOT get anymore GTO's in until June. Not bad for a car that supposedly doesn't sell, LOL! Right now they are trying to locate 2 for 2 dif customers that want to buy, but they don't have any. This is a pretty big Pontiac dealer in North NJ/NYC area too.
Also they say you can NOT order 2005 GTO anymore, whatever comes in, comes in. They will be taking orders for the 2006 GTO in the next few months.
They said they got a bunch of preorders for the Solstice already.