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You are in the Ford Mustang
What is this discussion about?
Ford Mustang, Pontiac GTO, Coupe, Convertible
Jun 23, 2005 (4:58 pm)
2003-04 SVT Cobra when you purchase the vehicle says 0-60 in 5.4 secs.
2005 Mustang 0-60 time is rated 5.2
Not much of a difference, but numbers dont lie.
Also, for those of you pissing and moaning about Ford having to supercharge their mustangs to get power... HELLO
Anyone remember the 2000 SVT Cobra R?
5.4 L Engine. ( NOT SUPERCHARGED)
Top Speed of over 170 MPH.
I do believe if Ford wanted to make a car, that could get 400HP with no blower, THEY CAN.
GTO is a 6.0 L engine, if Ford used one, they'd be over 400HP.
#1046 of 2056 Re: Facts [cobragt]
Jun 23, 2005 (5:23 pm)
If you really believe a 05 Mustang is going to beat a 03/04 Cobra at any speed, I have a lot of bridges to sell you.
I personally do not have a problem with Ford supercharging engines. I owned a SC 3800 so I understand that it is an easy way to make power and makes for great modability (if your into that).
That being said, I am in the camp of Ford cannot do 400hp normally aspirated, at least in a reasonably priced car. Their 4.6 is already physically bigger, heavier, more costly to build, less fuel efficient, and down horsepower on the LS2. Getting it up to 400hp NA is going to add a lot of cost to the car, which is something they obviously do not want to do. Using the 5.4 is going to only exaggerate the problems I just mentioned. Ironic that the Mustang guys are complaining about the GTOs weight, but the estimated for the new Shelby which will use the 5.4 keep going up - almost 3900 pounds was the latest I saw.
#1047 of 2056 Re: Facts [sensai]
Jun 23, 2005 (6:52 pm)
I'm not saying the 05 GT will BEAT the Cobra, I'm simply saying off the line, it is quicker. I know first hand. The 2003 Cobra that I owned I sold to my brother. Him and I just went street racing the other night. 3 times, yes he beats me. But off the line, I had him all 3 times til about 2-3rd gear. Thats all I'm saying.
A car is only as good as its driver.
To each their own.
Jun 23, 2005 (11:39 pm)
It's sounding more and more like a bunch of 16 year olds arguing the same thing over and over. My car is faster than yours. You guys can't enjoy driving what you own and have to try and belittle anyone that has a different opinion? And you don't think for one minute that if GM could sell 200,000 GTO's per year that they would turn down the oportunity? Please.
#1049 of 2056 Re: Is this SRT forums? [iwantonetoo]
Jun 24, 2005 (2:54 am)
Even if the GTO had a waiting list to buy GM can't sell anymore then 18,000 GT0 max under their labor agreement, because of it being imported from down under.
#1050 of 2056 Re: Facts [cobragt]
Jun 24, 2005 (2:58 am)
....."I do believe if Ford wanted to make a car, that could get 400HP with no blower, THEY CAN.
GTO is a 6.0 L engine, if Ford used one, they'd be over 400HP.".....
They haven't yet. The proof is in the pudding as they say. Wasn't the Cobra SVT R nearly $40k in price? It also had IRS.
#1051 of 2056 Re: 442man, You're Showing Yourself [tayl0rd]
Jun 24, 2005 (4:28 am)
57 yrs old here. Retired.2005 m6 GTO. Also own Mercedes Ml 320 and 560sel, after BMW 635 and 750il...yadda...yadda....
#1052 of 2056 Re: Facts [sensai]
Jun 24, 2005 (4:30 am)
......."Ironic that the Mustang guys are complaining about the GTOs weight, but the estimated for the new Shelby which will use the 5.4 keep going up - almost 3900 pounds was the latest I saw"......
Exactly... the Shelby GT500 will weigh the SAME or MORE then GTO and cost more, $40k+ and be around 58% 42%. Weight distribution It gains 150 to 200 pounds in the front.
#1053 of 2056 V8 stang owners getting ticketed, way to go Ford
Jun 24, 2005 (4:36 am)
The V8 Stang owners that run their fogs in the grille at night are already getting ticketed, in certain states, you can NOT have the foglights or external lights as the same height/level as the regular headlights. They have to be lower. It depends on the cop too. Way to go Ford. I think the V6 without fog lights looks better. In certain states you can not run foglights at all unless their is fog.
#1054 of 2056 Re: Exhaust sound [tayl0rd]
Jun 24, 2005 (4:42 am)
....."That's a matter of opinion. But I should hope the GTO sounds deeper considering those huge 5.7L and 6L engines in them".....
Actually Car and Driver said the GTO exhaust had a much deeper more angry, better exhaust note as well, so it's not just my opinion. This GTO has one of the best factory exhaust systems I have ever heard,.