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Ford Mustang, Pontiac GTO, Coupe, Convertible
#1025 of 2056 This is funny
Jun 23, 2005 (1:11 pm)
I guess you could consider me one of those "kids" who buys Mustangs. But, let me tell you what I know.
Seeming that I am a young one, my 1st mustang was a 98 V6.
Car 2 was a 2003 10th Anniversary SVT Cobra
Car 3 a 2002 Z06 Vette, aftermarket workdone (450HP)
Car 4 2001 Neon RT (irrelevant car...beater...for work) ANYWAY
Car 5 and present car 05 Mustang GT.
I've owned all those cars, (yes im young, but wealthy family if your wondering, and good job) and a friend of mine had... HAD a GTO. So I drove it.
Yes, the 98 V6 was slow, but hey, its a decent car for someone without too much money. The Cobra, there was a FAST car, head to the seat acceleration.. etc. Handled decent.
Vette...honestly, sucked on every bump, dip and variation in road. I sat so low, felt like I was driving a Luge.
GTO - well drove somewhat better then the vette, but when a Vette goes by, you know its a Vette, when a GTO goes by, you have to try to figure out what it is. It has no distinct design to it that sets it apart from other cars. When a mustang goes by, you KNOW its a mustang.
GTO rides choppy.
05 GT, well definitly a smooth ride. Firm and responsive on handling. Ford did great bringing back remnants of the past with the interior gauges and design.
Not to mention the 05 GT actually has a better 0-60 time the the 03-04 SVT Cobra, with its 390 HP. Imagine that.
Well, if you ask most people, they dont even know that Pontiac came back with a GTO, because NO ONE cares, but ask someone about the new Mustang, and your first response you get is... "Oh yeah, the one that looks like the old 69's, its really nice"
If I see a GTO on the road, I'll take it up for challenge any day!
#1026 of 2056 Re: 442man, You're Showing Yourself [gottabgto]
Jun 23, 2005 (1:18 pm)
I can't go anywhere without people ..., coming up and asking what it is...
...Mustang drivers... (there are sooo many of you out there).
#1027 of 2056 Re: This is funny [cobragt]
Jun 23, 2005 (1:21 pm)
Guess I'd have to ask you to define 'choppy'.
Not a term I'd ever associate with the smooth yet thrilling ride I get in my GTO.
#1028 of 2056 Re: tayl0rd need to get facts straight [442man]
Jun 23, 2005 (1:22 pm)
The std F body had the 3.4 then 3.8 V6. V8 was OPTIONAL. ...Only the TOP of the line models had Vette drivetrain.
That's why I said Trans Am and Z28, not Firebird and Camaro. And the V6 Mustang was quicker than the V6 F-body; less weight. The Trans Am and Z28 had the exact same powertrain as the Corvette, not a detuned one. You might want to check out the LS1 zealot forums for proof.
#1029 of 2056 Re: This is funny [cobragt]
Jun 23, 2005 (1:24 pm)
....."GTO - well drove somewhat better then the vette, but when a Vette goes by, you know its a Vette, when a GTO goes by, you have to try to figure out what it is. It has no distinct design to it that sets it apart from other cars".....
Good, I like Sleepers. Cars like the Mustang can attract the wrong attention, like cops etc. Besides it clearly says GTO embossed in BIG letters at the back bottom of the car. Pretty easy to see.
...."Well, if you ask most people, they dont even know that Pontiac came back with a GTO, because NO ONE cares".....
Your take/opinion on it, not fact. In fact when I tell people they have a GTO they are amazed and want to see it. It didn't help that GM really didn't advertise the car.
...."GTO rides choppy"..... .
Again, says you. My 2005 doesn't ride choppy, and it certainly rides a lot better and is more comfortable on long trips then 2005 Stang. At least I can fit 4 adults comfortably in GTO, unlike Stang.
...."Not to mention the 05 GT actually has a better 0-60 time the the 03-04 SVT Cobra, with its 390 HP. Imagine that". .....
NO, the 0-60 and 1/4 mile time are better on the Cobra then the 2005 Mustang. 90hp dif. check your facts. Cobra ran a 12.9 1/4 vs 13.8 for 2005. Big dif. C&D numbers
#1030 of 2056 Re: 442man, You're Showing Yourself [tayl0rd]
Jun 23, 2005 (1:27 pm)
You mean to tell me you like the fact that your car is so common?
Have fun then.
Perhaps they should rename it to the lemmingmobile...
#1031 of 2056 Re: tayl0rd need to get facts straight [tayl0rd]
Jun 23, 2005 (1:35 pm)
Tayl0rd says......."The Trans Am and Z28 had the exact same powertrain as the Corvette, not a detuned one. You might want to check out the LS1 zealot forums for proof"......
Corvette differed in that it had a slightly different cam, exhaust, and air box (intake), and drive by wire. Everything else is pretty much the same. Yeah pretty much the same. About the same horsepower too. From 1998 and on.
#1032 of 2056 Vauxhaull VXR 180mph same as GTO [tayl0rd]
Jun 23, 2005 (1:43 pm)
I'm in the USA too, but do a lot of world traveling.....There a different versions of the Monaro, including the TOP of the line Vauxhaull Monaro VXR which can do 180 mph drag limited with the same 6 Liter 400hp V8 we have. It also gets more creature comforts like heated seats, navigation, sunroof etc. There are the cheaper versions too.
BTW... the VXR sold out in it's first 3 months in production in England. So the car is not the Sales failure people claim it to be. Holden is making good $$ on it.
#1033 of 2056 Re: 442man, You're Showing Yourself [tayl0rd]
Jun 23, 2005 (1:47 pm)
......"Everywhere else, it is what it is; a Monaro"......
Yep and it's often compared to the likes of BMW and Mercedes. It competed very well against BMW in Austrailia. You will ever see a Mustang compared to those 2 marques... Not enough quality etc. In fact Car and Driver compared 2004 GTO to AMG or E55 Mercedes and GTO did very well against it, IMPRESSIVE.
Me as a former 5 series BMW driver.. I have to agree.
The funny thing is that many GTO buyers I know have traded in their BMW/Mercedes etc for GTO. Seems to be a more affluent older crowd buying GTO, hopefully insurance rates will stay down.
#1034 of 2056 4000rpm at 162mph
Jun 23, 2005 (1:49 pm)
The GTO at 162 mph electronic governor is only pulling 4000 rpm. Governor is anywhere from 158 to 162mph. Removed It should do 170 to 180mph drag limited.
Where as the 2005 Mustang is DRAG limited at 140mph, can't go any faster, no limiter, pathetic. Nissan Maxima with governor removed can go nearly 150mph+