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Looks like a Fiat 1100 with some kind of special trim
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Replying to: fintail (May 12, 2005 7:36 pm) |
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Cool Speaking of car photos, Here's a really cool site devoted to the cars owned by a Swiss family over a period of about 70 years Period shots are always interesting |
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 At a first glance, this should be blatantly easy considering its name is on the hood, but there's something "special" about this car. Fintail might get it pretty quickly.
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Replying to: andre1969 (May 13, 2005 8:01 am) Bob |
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these cars were often known as "Plodges"...basically it WAS a Plymouth, with a Dodge front-end clip. This model was called a Mayfair. Chrysler also had an export model called the DeSoto Diplomat, which was a Plymouth with a DeSoto grille and some different trim put on. Main reason they did these rebadges is because big cars won't cut it in overseas markets, and back then a Plymouth body was smaller than a Dodge, and way smaller than a DeSoto. Here's a pic of a '56 DeSoto Diplomat...  In looking at these pics, the Dodge and Plymouth must've been identical in '55-56 from the cowl forward, with the Dodge's extra length somewhere further back. Reason I'm thinking this is because for the Dodge version, they were actually able to fit a whole Dodge clip up there, fenders and all. On this DeSoto Diplomat, they just fitted a grille that resembled a '56 DeSoto's onto a Plymouth, using Plymouth fenders and everything, and just called it a day. And in that timeframe, a DeSoto/Chrysler was definitely longer than a Dodge or Plymouth, ahead of the cowl, so the whole front DeSoto clip never would've fit. I've always liked the '55-56 Plymouth, but now, looking at the pic, I think the Diplomat front end actually looks a little better! Still, it was on a 115" wheelbase, and probably around 200" long, if not more, so I doubt most foreign buyers considered these things "small" cars!  It really struck me as odd when we saw it at Carlisle. We were walking up the hill, and I probably said something like "oh cool, a '56 Plymouth". But then I got distracted by something else when we got up there, and then looked back, at the front of the car, and was like, "cool, a '56 Dodge...hey, WAIT a minute!" It took me a few seconds to realize I wasn't seeing things! |
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Overseas Dodge trucks were sold as DeSotos. Check out the Aussie DeSoto UTS. http://www.roadkillontheweb.com/truck.html Bob |
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I had never seen a DeSoto Ute before! BTW, did anybody ever come up with a "correct" term for that type of body style? I see that DeSoto was calling it a "coupe-utility", and I've heard Aussies just refer to that style as a "Ute". And here in the US, they usually just got called by their brand name...El Camino or Ranchero. I've heard them called "car/trucks" or "car-based pickups", but never did hear a technical term for them.
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Replying to: andre1969 (May 13, 2005 10:22 am) I think those early coupe utilities were based on our "business coupes," which were 2-door coupes with no rear seat, a small cab. but with a huge trunk. They were used by travelling salesmen back in the 1950s. Bob |
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