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#36044 of 37027 Re: New> [ateixeira]
Feb 23, 2013 (9:10 am)
Gotta keep up with the flamboyant CUV stylists. I take it this is the Cherokee (Liberty) and not Grand Cherokee, which actually is nice looking.
#36045 of 37027 Re: New> [fintail]
Feb 23, 2013 (9:20 am)
Yes, it is basically a replacement for the discontinued Jeep Liberty with no relationship to the Grand Cherokee. Former Cherokee owners don't like the fact that it is passenger car based (Alfa Giulietta!) and thus lacks the live axles that gave the old Cherokee so much off road capability.
I'd reserve judgement since I don't think most Cherokees were used much off the road but more as an all-weather tall station wagon. The weird frontal styling might look better in the metal... or not.
#36046 of 37027 Re: the burnout car again [qbrozen]
by steve_ HOST
Feb 23, 2013 (9:38 am)
Tesla lists a 40 KWh Model S starting at $52,400, but we say the base is $59,900. Not sure what the disconnect there is. Oh, you're right, the "base" base isn't available yet, so your cheapest choice is the 60 KWh one (and Tesla has that listed for $64,000 now).
The Model S Performance that Edmunds got starts at $87,400.
Elon should throw in 10 shares of stock for that price.
#36047 of 37027 Re: the burnout car again [steve_]
Feb 23, 2013 (9:47 am)
When I read the Edmunds info, I wondered if Tesla knew the car was going to Edmunds..., or was it bought anonymously in someone's name? I.E., was the car specially prepped since it was going to a group that would be writing about their experiences.
And I think Edmunds should have bought a standard model. Getting the highest powered, loaded up boat sounds like what C&D, MT, and some other mags do. But that just reminds me of a magazine years back doing a specialty test between two exclusive models of already exclusive cars and doing at a lake in Sweden or somewhere. I had trouble relating to two cars of that type that I wouldn't find in a showroom in Muncie, IN. But then I'm not the average car buyer either.
#36048 of 37027 Re: the burnout car again [imidazol97]
by steve_ HOST
Feb 23, 2013 (9:58 am)
Phil Reed does most of the car buying I think (a story the other day mentioned that he's purchased more than 100 cars for Edmunds). But someone had to put the $5,000 deposit down and it likely had an "identifiable" name on the check. So yeah, maybe we didn't get the Boeing batteries.
On the other hand it's kind of hard to drive down to a dealer and pick one up. Looks like every Tesla is "specially prepped".
At least we drive cars around LA and take them on road trips over a year, even if they are optioned up (if you don't get the options, how do you evaluate them?). I was pleasantly surprised when a Quest was added to the fleet last year. And more "normal" test cars would be good - of course out in LA, BMWs are "normal". I rarely see one up my way.
#36049 of 37027 Re: the burnout car again [steve_]
Feb 23, 2013 (10:03 am)
> BMWs are "normal". I rarely see one up my way.
I see a BMW all the time. My neighbor, who does car repair work in between his other job, has had one sitting in my driveway for months now. Apparently it's not repairable or expensive to do and the owner is waiting--who knows, I haven't asked him about it yet.
#36050 of 37027 Re: New> [ateixeira]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Feb 23, 2013 (10:27 am)
Cherokee---Looks like a 4-wheel soda machine.
Tesla -- they may go belly up but they will be remembered for doing one significant thing that nobody ever did before them----they made an electric car that was every bit as good (or better) than a gasoline car. In other words, they gave consumers a reason to buy one.
Problem is, this pricing structure for Tesla is BMW/Lexus territory, not Volt/Prius territory.
#36051 of 37027 Re: New> [andys120]
Feb 23, 2013 (10:30 am)
The top part looks like extrapolation on the Mustang's taillights from some years.
The lower part looks, well, it just looks... Take off the chrome and the lower might be better, BUT the lower and the upper are far out of balance, as are several cars these days. Or maybe that art appreciation class I took in my college days is taking me down the wrong thinking track. The forté of Jeep was a wholesome look that looked like a rough and tough vehicle. This front end does not look that way.
#36052 of 37027 Re: New> [imidazol97]
Feb 23, 2013 (11:13 am)
I think it might be some kind of reaction to the goofy stuff coming out of Toyota and Nissan lately. I also do get a dose of Fiat in it, who has a history of sometimes being wacky, themselves. It's essentially a Liberty, which was never very rough and tumble. I guess this thing will show how much image drives sales.
#36053 of 37027 Re: New> [fintail]
by steve_ HOST
Feb 23, 2013 (11:34 am)
Jeep fans will insist that it have round headlights too.