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#35941 of 38598 Re: malaise era [ateixeira]
Feb 16, 2013 (2:03 pm)
According to my old car book, a '72-ish Montego wagon only started off at around 3800-3900 lb. They porked up fast though. By '76, they were pushing 4500 lb.
The Montego, and Ford's Torino, ended up getting so porky that Ford had to ditch the 6-cyl and the 302 V-8, and by '75-76 had to make the 351 the base engine!
And, once they got the 5-mph crash bumpers, both front and rear, I think the Montego and Torino wagons ended up being slightly longer than the full-sized LTD and Colony Park wagons!
#35942 of 38598 Re: malaise era [andre1969]
Feb 16, 2013 (2:05 pm)
My Sienna minivan is comparatively light at ~4k pounds.
#35943 of 38598 Re: Range Rover?> [andys120]
Feb 16, 2013 (4:24 pm)
Monteverdi Safari from about 1980. I think it was based on the International Scout II which was quite decent as a 4wd.
Not sure if it was ever popular. Style was not as pure as a Range Rover.
#35944 of 38598 Re: Range Rover?> [grahampeters]
Feb 16, 2013 (8:57 pm)
You're right on all counts, not may of those were ever made.
Feb 16, 2013 (8:59 pm)
#35946 of 38598 Re: Land yacht> [andys120]
Feb 16, 2013 (10:32 pm)
I am hopeless at US cars, but assume GM, maybe Pontiac from the style. Was 1959 the year that fins reached their zenith?
Isn't it gorgeous - totally impractical and road-hogging, but what a way to go!
#35947 of 38598 Re: Land yacht> [grahampeters]
Feb 17, 2013 (5:18 am)
I'll throw in Catalina.
I had a 62, 69, and a 73. You are correct, what a way to go!
#35948 of 38598 Re: Land yacht> [grahampeters]
Feb 17, 2013 (6:02 am)
That's a Bonneville convertible. The whitewall on the tires looks a little wider than I recall for that era.
#35949 of 38598 Re: Land yacht> [grahampeters]
Feb 17, 2013 (6:34 am)
You're certainly not hopeless Graham, that is indeed a 1959 Pontiac and Lostwrench is correct too, it's a Catalina although it has the Bonneville side trim which has something to do with it being made in Canada, anybody know what? (Canadian DM Ponchos back then used Chevy chassis and motors)
1959-60 was a kind of zenith for Detroit Iron in that the cars were as big and outlandishly styled as they ever would be. However those cars were terrible pigs with hideous gas mileage, poor braking, sloppy steering and mushy suspensions. (I learned to drive on a '59 Merc.)
The pictured car has a 345 hp 389CID V8 under the hood and the very rare and expensive Kelsey-Hayes wire wheels. The interior trim was even more outrageous>
#35950 of 38598 Re: Land yacht> [andys120]
Feb 17, 2013 (6:52 am)
>1959 Pontiac and Lostwrench is correct too, it's a Catalina although it has the Bonneville side trim which has something to do with it being made in Canada,
I was fooled by the Bonneville stars and the J-spear trim. But it looks to have the extra length behind the wheel of the Bonneville in this view.
Are there any other views of this car, Andys120? The J-spear appears to have the same proportion as the Bonneville trim piece has which would be varied if the rear overhang were the shorter Catalina length.
I'd like to hear (see) more about the variation with the Canadian versions. In reality, the Bonneville's length was an extravagance and a Canadian version on the smaller base with high level outfitting would be a much more practical car.