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#35136 of 36959 Re: sure you know but do you? [Mr_Shiftright]
Dec 08, 2012 (12:42 pm)
Pacer with Hamburg plates
#35137 of 36959 Re: sure you know but do you? [fintail]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Dec 08, 2012 (12:52 pm)
yes, yes, but WHICH special Pacer do we have here?
HINT: Think Nash-Hudson merger
#35138 of 36959 Re: sure you know but do you? [Mr_Shiftright]
Dec 08, 2012 (1:06 pm)
That was a few years before my time. Only Pacer model I can think of is an "X".
#35139 of 36959 Re: sure you know but do you? [fintail]
Dec 08, 2012 (2:08 pm)
French...AMC-Renault Grosse Femme?
#35140 of 36959 Re: sure you know but do you? [fintail]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Dec 08, 2012 (2:44 pm)
Pacer "Silver" Edition in 1979, complete with..well, silver paint and...AND...a V8!
This edition commemorates the Nash-Hudson merger of 25 years prior, or so they say...who's counting?
#35141 of 36959 Re: sure you know but do you? [Mr_Shiftright]
Dec 08, 2012 (4:20 pm)
That's a strange event to commemorate. Desperate marketing I suppose.
Dec 08, 2012 (7:02 pm)
#35143 of 36959 Re: Not many left> [andys120]
Dec 08, 2012 (9:42 pm)
A lovely, lovely car. The Renault 16, I think from fairly late in its life. My father had one and he loved driving it, despite some assembly issues which gave it some problems. They were assembled in Australia from CKD (completely knoced down) kits imported from France. The production line, in Heidelberg, Victoria, also made Peugeot 504's in a rare show of French co-operation. There was some significant tax benefits for sales of foreign cars in Australia, through them being assembled in Australia.
Dad's, along with about a thousand other Renault 16's was a failure on the CKD front. The drain hoses from the air inlet plenum, were of differing lengths and incorrectly assembled on Australian assembled cars, According in rainy conditions, the drivers foot-well stayed dry, but the passenger rapidly found themselves wading! It took a remarkably long time to solve the problem.
There were also issues with rust-proofing which earned them a poor reputation in Australia.
They also suffered from an inadequate parking brake. A friend parked his parents on a gentle slope, set the handbrake and was rewarded by the site of it slipping downhill at increasing speed, clearing a major highway and landing in a paddock opposite - minimal damage but an incentive to shove a brick behind the wheel ever after.
The Renault 16 was interesting o drive, the body rolling alarmingly on its soft springing which was set up for rough French cobbled roads. The wheelbase was different on each side as the rear suspension hung off locating arms stretching the whole width of the car, Hence the Left side was marginally longer than the right.
Despite the body roll, handling was very good and they cried out to be driven hard.
It was pretty much the last car that I can recall with column shift four speed which was very educational for a young driver.
The rear seats could be moved around in about seven different ways or removed entirely to increase cargo space (quite a novelty at the time).
The wheels were on a three stud pattern with the hub cap secured by a central bolt. This made it virtually impossible to get the wheels balanced unless you went to a specialty shop.
Dad's was a base model 16TL in a dirty brown colour, its greatest colour virtue being that it was identical to the colour of the dried coal in our local coal mines. Hence when driven through the mud in the mines, it looked just as awful as when clean.
The fancier version, the 16TS had a tuned engine and was quite nippy. The Automatic 16TA was best avoided.
Reliability was not a strong point, as with most Renaults; you rapidly develop a friendly relationship with the specialist serviceman!
A happy memory.
Dec 08, 2012 (9:42 pm)
An early Toyota Corona, from about 1965. They were assembled in Port Melbourne (near my office) under the same deal as the Renault 16 mentioned above, being sold here as the Toyota Tiara. I am not sure if they made it to the USA, but obviously somewhere other than RHD countries.
This is sort of the beginning of the Japanese revolution in Australia. I don't think a massive number were assembled but from the next generation, they were a big hit.
Dec 08, 2012 (10:57 pm)