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#34859 of 38597 Re: Corvette?> [Mr_Shiftright]
Nov 06, 2012 (10:16 am)
Correct, if GM and Ralph Nader hadn't killed the Corvair, John Fitch might have been another Carroll Shelby and made an American Porsche out of the Phoenix.
Fitch, who recently died at 95 had a careers as a Fighter pilot, racing driver, race track and team manager as well as an auto safety pioneer. He might be the most amazing man you never heard of.
Obituary-John Cooper Fitch.
#34860 of 38597 Re: Corvette?> [andys120]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Nov 06, 2012 (11:26 am)
I don't think Nader killed the car---GM shot themselves in the foot. Bad PR itself can rarely kill off a car. The Corvair was under-developed and GM pretty much had abandoned it by 1965 anyway, the same year as Nader's book. So GM had the Corvair off the books already, with the '65 being the last model planned.
the Mustang was a big wake-up call for GM--hence the Camaro really became the new Corvair.
If anything, Nader merely made circling the drain a little faster perhaps, or if anything encouraged GM that they were right in ditching the car and going "conventional".
Nov 06, 2012 (12:39 pm)
#34862 of 38597 Re: Corvette?> [Mr_Shiftright]
Nov 06, 2012 (1:01 pm)
The '65 was an all-new car and very attractive. But, maximum 180 horsepower didn't cut it for most people. I'd still enjoy one but I think it'd be even harder to find anybody to work on it than a Studebaker.
#34863 of 38597 Re: Corvette?> [uplanderguy]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Nov 06, 2012 (2:33 pm)
Well like the Studebaker cult, the Corvair cult has its little nests of believers--so I think if you were patient, you'd find someone in driving distance. He might be WEIRD, but he'd know Corvairs.
There's a guy right around me who collects them, He must have 20 of them in the back 40, in the tin shed, even stacked on each other. He fixes one up, sells it, fixes another sells it, buys 3 more, takes those apart...you know the routine.
These days, with aftermarket help you can make a much better Corvair, or Studebaker, than the factory ever did. For one thing, you can stop most of the oil leaks and you can re-assemble the car with more care.
#34864 of 38597 Re: Movie still> [andys120]
Nov 06, 2012 (2:44 pm)
1968 Mercury Cougar, from On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
Are these pictures coming forth because of the new Bond movie being released this Friday?
I cannot identify the coupe next to it, however.
#34865 of 38597 Re: Movie still> [andys120]
Nov 06, 2012 (3:47 pm)
Looks like a 1969 Cougar, and a 1969 Aston Martin DBS...
#34866 of 38597 Re: Movie still> [jwilliams2]
Nov 06, 2012 (4:16 pm)
I'm with you; that's a '69 Cougar. No idea on the Aston Martin.
#34867 of 38597 Re: Corvette?> [Mr_Shiftright]
Nov 06, 2012 (4:18 pm)
A friend who's an auto writer told me not to worry about serviceability when I bought my '66 Stude--'anybody that can work on a '60's Chevelle can work on that car'. I didn't own it long enough to really find out though.
#34868 of 38597 Re: Movie still> [jwilliams2]
Nov 06, 2012 (5:54 pm)
Yep, it's a '69 Mercury Cougar next to a '69 Aston-Martin DBS. It's from On Her Majesty's Secret Service an oddball in the Bond series in that it featured George Lazenby perhaps the most forgettable of the James Bond portrayers and Diana Rigg (next to the Cougar), my far and away favorite of the Bond girls.