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#34292 of 36967 Re: Nadir> [andre1969]
Sep 18, 2012 (9:45 am)
Wimpiest Muscle Cars:
Top 10 Wimpiest Muscle Cars
The Gremlin GT from the article reminds me of C.A.R.R. from the Adult Swim cartoon "Stroker and Hoop!"
#34293 of 36967 Re: Nadir> [lemko]
Sep 18, 2012 (10:15 am)
I'm surprised that list didn't mention the 1977.5 Pontiac Can Am. It was about the only thing resembling a musclecar by that time, but with its 200 hp 400-4bbl, and standard 3-speed automatic, and curb weight of around two tons, I think it was good for 0-60 in about 8.9 seconds.
But, for comparison, by that time I think the biggest engine you could get in a midsized Ford was a 400-2bbl with around 166 hp. Chevy's Malibu was down to a 350-4 with 170 hp, and I think the Buick Century Regal were stuck with choked down Buick 350-4's that only had 155 hp! You could still get an Olds 403 in the Cutlass with 185 hp, and the regular Pontiac LeMans/Grand Prix could be had with a 180 hp 400-4bbl, or in CA they got the 403.
Chrysler was still putting out some pretty potent 400's and 440's in '77, but I think they were relegated mainly for police cars. In passenger cars, they were usually tuned more for towing...they could move a lot of weight, but they just couldn't move a lot of weight fast.
A Volare Road Runner or Aspen R/T with the 360-4bbl might be faster though. And I guess a '77 Nova with the 350 wouldn't be too bad.
Sep 18, 2012 (10:42 am)
Gee, 120 HP out of 300+ cubic inches. It almost takes as much genius to do things that badly as it does to do them well.
#34295 of 36967 Re: Nadir> [lemko]
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Sep 18, 2012 (4:45 pm)
Always nice to see one of your former rides on a list like that...
#34296 of 36967 Re: Bad copy> [andys120]
Sep 18, 2012 (6:20 pm)
K-9...LOL...what a name. Is it a dog?
Weird mix of copycat cues from BMW and I see a dose of Lincoln in that greenhouse. Surprised it isn't Chinese.
#34297 of 36967 Re: Nadir> [lemko]
Sep 18, 2012 (6:25 pm)
Man, it started with Andre's movie shot, then the Pontiac Ventura's and some Chinese crap copy cat. Now a Gremlin. What's with this week - Ugly Review?
#34298 of 36967 Re: Nadir> [berri]
Sep 19, 2012 (5:00 am)
What's with this week - Ugly Review?
#34299 of 36967 Re: Nadir> [andys120]
Sep 19, 2012 (6:19 am)
Yes, this is WAY better!!! Looks like a '47 or '48 MG TC with a rather unique non-vintage paint job.
#34300 of 36967 Re: Nadir> [Mr_Shiftright]
Sep 19, 2012 (6:37 am)
I think sometimes putting those big engines in small cars backfires, because they often have to de-tune them a bit because of more restrictive exhausts. Also, because of the light bodies they're going into, I think they reduce the power so that it doesn't stress out the platform as much. Yet, they still have the extra weight to lug around.
GM tried putting a 350 in the Chevy Monza in 1975, and it was choked down to 125 hp. Although even in bigger cars, I think it was down to 140-150 hp by then. From 1976 onward, they went with the 305, which I think usually had around 130-145 hp, although I've heard the best engine choice for this car was actually the Buick 231 V-6. It wasn't much heavier than the 4-cyl, but had more hp and a lot more torque. In those days though, it would probably self-destruct quicker than an Iron duke or Chevy smallblock.
#34301 of 36967 Re: Nadir> [wgrafer]
Sep 19, 2012 (6:55 am)
Looks like a '47 or '48 MG TC with a rather unique non-vintage paint job.
Yup, it's a '48.