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#33521 of 37260 Re: Slope back> [uplanderguy]
by andre1969
Jun 21, 2012 (7:56 am)
I wonder if Chevy had added Chevelle/Malibu and Monte Carlo together, if Olds could have made that claim.
I'm sure there were a few years in there, where Malibu/Monte Carlo sales would have beaten out the Cutlass line. For instance, in 1978-79, while the Cutlass Supreme coupe was a hot seller, and the wagons sold fairly well, those clunky "aeroback" coupes and sedans pretty much flopped. Meanwhile, the Monte Carlo and Malibu both sold well.
In '80 though, I think the Cutlass might have still won out. The Malibu saw a pretty sharp drop that year, no doubt because of competition from the Citation. And the Monte Carlo fell off as well. The Cutlass Supreme coupe probably fell off a bit, but the sedan was given a new roofline reminiscent of the '75-79 Seville, and sales suddenly took off.
#33522 of 37260 Re: Fugly> [ateixeira]
by michaell
Jun 21, 2012 (8:08 am)
RE: Nissan Juke
My wife actually likes the looks of these ... and, I find them, um, "unique".
I test drove one a few months back. FWD with 6-speed manual. It's actually quite a blast to drive; not sure how I'd feel about the AWD/CVT combo. The 188HP turbo 1.6L is a kick in the rear. Kinda like a GTI on stilts, though probably not as big, inside or out.
Most of the ones we see on the road are driven by 'mature' folks.
#33523 of 37260 Re: Fugly> [michaell]
by ateixeira
Jun 21, 2012 (8:14 am)
Personally I would rather have seen that power train dropped in to the Cube. Sure it's another oddball, but the boxy shape is practical, at least.
Fun and practical, what more can you ask? At that point who cares what it looks like.
Cube turbo would also be much cheaper.
Jun 21, 2012 (8:25 am)
"But it's got AWD! And it's a convertible!"
"So? Let's get a Jeep instead."
Having had a CJ-5back in the day and now driving a '99 Nissan, I'd take the Murano.
I like the PT Cruiser convertible touring setups too. Just enough room in these rigs to take them camping, but I'd rather have the ground clearance of the Murano for the forest service roads we like.
Looks don't last - function does.
#33525 of 37260 Re: Fugly> [steve_]
by ateixeira
Jun 21, 2012 (9:02 am)
I looked at convertibles, and thought about a back seat for the kids. In terms of space, the PT was among the best, only the Sebring was roomier at the time.
But...cowl shake was pretty bad. The whole vehicle felt cheap, like it would break in half and last less than 3 years.
None of the roomy ones drove well (PT, Sebring, Solara), so I went with a 2 seater.
#33526 of 37260 Re: Traffic jam> [fintail]
by uplanderguy
Jun 21, 2012 (10:43 am)
I generally think the 66 Ford looks better than 65, the subtle curves helped.
Just the opposite for me. I think the '66 looks 'chubby' compared to the '65.
#33527 of 37260 Re: Fugly> [ateixeira]
by michaell
Jun 21, 2012 (11:22 am)
Sure it's another oddball, but the boxy shape is practical, at least.
Fun and practical, what more can you ask? At that point who cares what it looks like.
If there is one drawback to the Juke, it would be cargo capacity. My wife does some adult education, and the amount of stuff she has to take with her fills up the back of the CX-7 - and occasionally requires that half of the rear seat be folded down as well.
That stuff may fit in the Juke with both seats down - but just barely.
#33528 of 37260 Re: Fugly> [michaell]
by ateixeira
Jun 21, 2012 (11:25 am)
All of Nissans crossovers are smaller inside than they should be.
Pathfinder should change that.
#33529 of 37260 Re: Traffic jam> [uplanderguy]
by berri
Jun 21, 2012 (5:44 pm)
I can see the 65 Ford winning if you look at the rear end (and it isn't the stripped base model with small round tailights and cheap trim filling up the rest of the tailight area. But front end, rooflines, etc. move me over to the 66 overall. Impala, I'll go 65 hands down. Fury is a toss-up, I'd probably lean toward the 66. By and large though, most everything in 65/66 was pretty decent looking to my eyes, kind of like 57.
Jun 22, 2012 (4:30 am)