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Re: Rust never sleeps> [imidazol97] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 05, 2009 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 05, 2009 6:25 am)

The Chieftain Special Six was the stripper I think, and the Chieftain Deluxe Six had the chrome strips. MSRP about $2000 bucks.
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Re: Rust never sleeps> [imidazol97] by andys120
Nov 05, 2009 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 05, 2009 6:25 am)

Go here and click on "Full Size" and you can clearly see that the script on the side simply reads "Pontiac".
 
Again I think the reason you've seen pictures claiming the name Chieftain and Catalina
is that the Catalina was the name for the pillarless Hardtop version of the Catalina. I couldn't find any pillared coupes labelled as Catalinas.
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AAHHH by british_rover
Nov 05, 2009 (9:49 am)
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WAYYY TOO BIGG
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Sorry, It wasn't nearly that big where I got it from by andys120
Nov 05, 2009 (9:50 am)
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Re: Rust never sleeps> [andys120] by imidazol97
Nov 05, 2009 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Nov 05, 2009 9:41 am)

Thanks for the picture and info both mr_shiftright and andys120.
 
I had found this poster for 1953
http://www.mclellansautomotive.com/photos/B37897-2.jpg
 
Described as having these model pictures
 
Folder opens to 23x36 layout with photo renderings of Pontiac Chieftain DeLuxe 2- and 4-Door Sedans, Convertible and Station Wagon; Chieftain Special 2- and 4-Door Sedans; Custom Catalina; and Deluxe Catalina
 
posted on this site
 
http://www.mclellansautomotive.com/lit/bymake/pontiac/index-6.shtml
 
So the Catalina name was only for the hardtops shown on the right hand side and the stripped models were Chieftains, probably the Chieftain Special 2 and 4 door sedans listed in the text.
 
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Re: Sorry, It wasn't nearly that big where I got it from [andys120] by steve_ HOST
Nov 05, 2009 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Nov 05, 2009 9:50 am)

I have dual monitors going and the pic wouldn't even fit here.
 
Sorry, had to zap that one.
 
We mentioned the edit the pic url trick, right? Insert height=400 width=600 before the right bracket should do the trick.
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Re: Rust never sleeps> [imidazol97] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 05, 2009 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 05, 2009 9:51 am)

I think you got that right, yes, from what I can tell from my own resource material.
 
There were both 6 cyl and 8 cyl. cars available.
 
I'd love to have that steel wagon.
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Re: Rust never sleeps> [lostwrench1] by magnette
Nov 05, 2009 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: lostwrench1 (Nov 04, 2009 5:56 pm)

I'm with you, lostwrench, on the Pontiac - the description of the 1953 Chieftain in the "Standard Catalog of American Cars'" says;
 
"Chieftain line.... Standard models were now called Specials, and came with small hubcaps, rubber gravel guards, straight upper beltline trim and short arrow-shaped side trim. Deluxe Chieftains had long 'dual streak' body mouldings....".etc.
 
What we have here, therefore, as you say, is a Special, and you can actually see the rubber gravel guard on the rear wing, while the arrow shaped trim is also still there.
 
The Special was available two or four door, and I think this two door had a factory price of $2015. given it has lasted well, it was a good buy for someone, and it's nice to see the base model surviving - as usually the top of the range cars will survive in higher proportions than the base or fleet models..
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Re: Rust never sleeps> [magnette] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 05, 2009 (3:13 pm)
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Replying to: magnette (Nov 05, 2009 11:34 am)

The base models are often scavenged for parts for the top range cars. So even though (in most cases) far far more base models were made, they are often the most rare today.

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