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Re: Movie Still> [andys120] by lemko [andys120] [stephen987] [Mr_Shiftright] [andys120] by stephen987
Oct 29, 2009 (5:24 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Oct 29, 2009 2:44 am)

If the Cloud merits such criticism, then the Dawn should as well, since it was the first Rolls to have a "standard" body style produced in-house.
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Re: Movie Still> [andys120] by lemko [andys120] [stephen987] [Mr_Shiftright] [andys120] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 29, 2009 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Oct 29, 2009 2:44 am)

Well those are just subjective judgements on my part---but lousy reliability and some goofy engineering would not be so subjective.
 
Actually, to be really fair about it, those lovely coachbuilt bodies were not very durable and they fell apart pretty quickly, succumbing to corrosion and metal fatigue. A standard steel saloon body from the factory was no doubt much more rugged.
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Re: Movie Still> [andys120] by lemko [andys120] [stephen987] [Mr_Shiftright] [andys120] [Mr_Shiftright] by stephen987
Oct 29, 2009 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 29, 2009 7:34 am)

Agreed. The "Pressed Steel" bodies of the Dawn/R and Cloud/S are pretty stout, and more easily restored than the coachbuilt wonders--some of which depended heavily on wood framing, etc.
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Re: Movie Still> [andys120] by lemko [andys120] by berri
Oct 29, 2009 (5:17 pm)
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Replying to: andys120 (Oct 28, 2009 9:35 am)

For my money the '46-'47 Caddy was a handsomer car than the 1950 which looks a bit dowdy to me.
 
I think that 49 Caddy redesign didn't really look good until around 54 when they cleaned it up with a more upscale and delicate grill as well as other exterior and interior refinements. But then, Lincoln and Chrysler didn't really have much to compete, so GM probably put the money elsewhere.
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Re: Movie Still> [andys120] by lemko [andys120] [berri] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 29, 2009 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Oct 29, 2009 5:17 pm)

I love the Cadillac fastback with the rear wiper---was that a '49? Gorgeous car. (not the one in the picture)
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Re: Movie Still> [andys120] by lemko [andys120] [berri] by ghulet
Oct 29, 2009 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Oct 29, 2009 5:17 pm)

the early '50s Cadillacs look more than a little elephantine, what with the smallish wheels and the almost fender-skirt quality of the front fender design, combined with the new 'fins' and the buldgy rear fenders. The '46-48s were very clean. The '49 was a ground-breaking design (and Coupe deVille the first two-door hardtop), though.
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Coupe> by andys120
Oct 29, 2009 (7:17 pm)
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Re: Coupe> [andys120] by stephen987
Oct 30, 2009 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Oct 29, 2009 7:17 pm)

Glas coupe--2600GT?
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Re: Coupe> [stephen987] by andys120
Oct 30, 2009 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Oct 30, 2009 5:30 am)

Glas coupe--2600GT?
 
Close, it's the larger engined version a 1969 Glas 3000GT which like the 2600 had a little jewel of a V8 engine and Frua bodywork. Because of the Frua bodywork which was similar to the Masertai Sebring and Mexico they were known as "Glaseratis". After 1966 Glas was a wholly owned subsidiary of BMW and they were badged as "BMW-Glas" in many markets and wore the roundel on the nose, tail and wheel convers>
 

 
IIRC Glas cars were never officially sold in the USA.
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Re: Coupe> [andys120] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 30, 2009 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: andys120 (Oct 30, 2009 12:32 pm)

I saw the classic Frua "lip" on the grille but wasn't sure about the car. But now that I know it makes perfect sense in terms of styling and association.
 
Not a terribly attractive car from the windshield forward, but most Frua bodies are an acquired taste.

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