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Re: Another obscure... [andys120]
by stephen987
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Sep 18, 2008 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Sep 18, 2008 2:17 am)
Thanks for this one--it was fun! I remember reading that when the Vedette passed from Ford France to Simca, practically every piece had to be reengineered--not because the Ford parts were bad but because they were adapted from US and UK components and were thus non-metric. I like the look--sort of a 7/8 scale US Ford, but a bit cleaner.
The Aronde is a nice looking car too--restrained, clean without the poverty-spec look that was common to so many Euro cars in the 1950s.
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Re: Scout?> [andys120]
by magnette
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Sep 18, 2008 (6:12 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Sep 18, 2008 5:26 am)
This is a descendant of the Fiat Campanogla - Fiat then entered into an arrangement with Ford Germany and a few others to form a truck company called Iveco, in Spain, and for some markets their range included a version of the Fiat badged as an Iveco. ( I'm a bit vague about this as we get Iveco trucks here but not the Campanola)
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Re: Scout?> [magnette]
by andys120
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Sep 18, 2008 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: magnette (Sep 18, 2008 6:12 am)
That's correct, Magnette, in fact it's called the IVECO Campagnola. We get lots of heavy and medium IVECO Trucks here but I doubt the Campagnola is headed our way.
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Re: Scout?> [magnette]
by jlbl
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Sep 18, 2008 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: magnette (Sep 18, 2008 6:12 am)
Currently IVECO ("Industrial Vehicle Corporation") is a truck, van & and diesel-engine maker settled in Torino. It is a FIAT subsidiary. It builds about 200,000 vehicles and 460,000 engines per year. A number of European truck makers were bought by FIAT/IVECO at the end of the last Century to have the Corporation the size it is now. Among them, the former Spanish brand 'Pegaso', of which an agreed buying by MB collided with the European anti-cartel legislation.
Regards,
Jose
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Exotic #1
by jlbl
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Sep 18, 2008 (6:43 am)
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Let's have a push to this… (without having a look at my CarSpace) 
I could present it as viewed form the front or the flank under petition 
Regards,
Jose
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Re: Exotic #1 [jlbl]
by magnette
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Sep 18, 2008 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Sep 18, 2008 6:43 am)
It looks like an Autonacional Biscuter, or something along those lines, from the early fifties or its French antecedent.
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Re: Exotic #1 [magnette]
by jlbl
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Sep 18, 2008 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: magnette (Sep 18, 2008 7:11 am)
Wow!! Exactly. I was not confident it would take so little time to have it recognized. Magnette, you are a real connoisseur.
It looks like an Autonacional Biscuter
It is a Biscuter Zapatilla, 1953. 197 cc., 1 cyl. Chain transmission, but only to the frontal right wheel. No back gear. It was made following the design of the French Gabriel Voisin, who sold it to Autonacional Co. in Barcelona.
Here are some more pictures.
Although the Biscuter (from biscuit) was not exactly popular, they sold quite a number of them. 'You are as ugly as a Biscuter', people used to say at the epoque.
Regards,
Jose
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Re: Exotic #1 [jlbl]
by andys120
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Sep 18, 2008 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Sep 18, 2008 8:09 am)
It looks like across between a golf cart and a 2CV.
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Re: Exotic #1 [andys120]
by jlbl
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Sep 18, 2008 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Sep 18, 2008 8:34 am)
At that time even having a Biscuter was luxurious. No other national car was made. All cars in the streets were either imported or leftovers from the Civil War. SEAT 600, which was made in Barcelona under FIAT license from 1957 onwards, was the first really popular car, although in fact only middle class families could buy one of them.
Regards,
Jose
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Re: Exotic #1 [jlbl]
by magnette
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Sep 18, 2008 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Sep 18, 2008 8:09 am)
Actually, there is a photo of one of these beasts, from the front admittedly, on the cover of a magazine I subscribe to - RUMCar news (the magazine of the Register of Unusual Microcars). I only looked at the magazine yesterday, looking for something else, so it was fresh in my mind.
Also, I think I read somewhere - but can't find the reference - that the Biscuter was assembled in its later ears in the factory in Barcelona which had built the Pegaso car, (a link to the previous vehicle, the Iveco, because that was involved with Pegaso trucks)
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