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#18351 of 23878 Re: Another obscure... [andys120] by stephen987 Sep 18, 2008 (1:38 am)
Replying to: andys120 (Sep 18, 2008 1:25 am) Can't tell about the farthest car on the right, but behind that appears to my eyes to be some sort of Simca-Ford Vedette, followed by a Lancia Aurelia. The car behind the Aurelia, with the disc wheels, might be a Citroen ID19. (Have you ever seen a picture that "might" be a Citroen?) Replies to this message: andys120 (Sep 18, 2008 2:17 am) stephen987 (Sep 18, 2008 5:30 am)
#18352 of 23878 Re: Another obscure... [stephen987] by andys120 Sep 18, 2008 (2:17 am)
Replying to: stephen987 (Sep 18, 2008 1:38 am) Nice job, Stephen987. Ford was out of the picture after about 1954, despite the Ford look the Vedette, is a Simca Vedette like this 1959 Vedette Regence> The first car to the left is another Simca, the most popular seller in 1950's France, the Simca Aronde ('51-'58)> . It was the popularity of the Aronde, Simca's first design not based on a Fiat, which enabled Simca to acquire Ford France as well as Talbot and Unic. In '58 Chrysler acquired a stake in Simca becoming majority owner in 1963, changing the name to Chrysler France in 1970 and dropping the Simca name in '81. Oh yes, the Lancia Aurelia is a GT (B20S) Replies to this message: stephen987 (Sep 18, 2008 5:30 am)
#18353 of 23878 Scout?> by andys120 Sep 18, 2008 (5:26 am)
Replies to this message: magnette (Sep 18, 2008 6:12 am) andys120 (Sep 18, 2008 6:30 am) jlbl (Sep 18, 2008 6:34 am)
#18354 of 23878 Re: Another obscure... [andys120] by stephen987 Sep 18, 2008 (5:30 am)
Replying to: andys120 (Sep 18, 2008 2:17 am) Thanks for this one--it was fun! I remember reading that when the Vedette passed from Ford France to Simca, practically every piece had to be reengineered--not because the Ford parts were bad but because they were adapted from US and UK components and were thus non-metric. I like the look--sort of a 7/8 scale US Ford, but a bit cleaner. The Aronde is a nice looking car too--restrained, clean without the poverty-spec look that was common to so many Euro cars in the 1950s.
#18355 of 23878 Re: Scout?> [andys120] by magnette Sep 18, 2008 (6:12 am)
Replying to: andys120 (Sep 18, 2008 5:26 am) This is a descendant of the Fiat Campanogla - Fiat then entered into an arrangement with Ford Germany and a few others to form a truck company called Iveco, in Spain, and for some markets their range included a version of the Fiat badged as an Iveco. ( I'm a bit vague about this as we get Iveco trucks here but not the Campanola) Replies to this message: andys120 (Sep 18, 2008 6:30 am) jlbl (Sep 18, 2008 6:34 am)
#18356 of 23878 Re: Scout?> [magnette] by andys120 Sep 18, 2008 (6:30 am)
Replying to: magnette (Sep 18, 2008 6:12 am) That's correct, Magnette, in fact it's called the IVECO Campagnola. We get lots of heavy and medium IVECO Trucks here but I doubt the Campagnola is headed our way.
#18357 of 23878 Re: Scout?> [magnette] by jlbl Sep 18, 2008 (6:34 am)
Replying to: magnette (Sep 18, 2008 6:12 am) Currently IVECO ("Industrial Vehicle Corporation") is a truck, van & and diesel-engine maker settled in Torino. It is a FIAT subsidiary. It builds about 200,000 vehicles and 460,000 engines per year. A number of European truck makers were bought by FIAT/IVECO at the end of the last Century to have the Corporation the size it is now. Among them, the former Spanish brand 'Pegaso', of which an agreed buying by MB collided with the European anti-cartel legislation. Regards, Jose
#18358 of 23878 Exotic #1 by jlbl Sep 18, 2008 (6:43 am)
Let's have a push to this… (without having a look at my CarSpace) I could present it as viewed form the front or the flank under petition Regards, Jose Replies to this message: magnette (Sep 18, 2008 7:11 am) jlbl (Sep 18, 2008 8:09 am) andys120 (Sep 18, 2008 8:34 am) and 1 more... magnette (Sep 18, 2008 9:01 am) and 1 more...
#18359 of 23878 Re: Exotic #1 [jlbl] by magnette Sep 18, 2008 (7:11 am)
Replying to: jlbl (Sep 18, 2008 6:43 am) It looks like an Autonacional Biscuter, or something along those lines, from the early fifties or its French antecedent. Replies to this message: jlbl (Sep 18, 2008 8:09 am) andys120 (Sep 18, 2008 8:34 am) jlbl (Sep 18, 2008 8:58 am) magnette (Sep 18, 2008 9:01 am) jlbl (Sep 18, 2008 11:08 am)
#18360 of 23878 Re: Exotic #1 [magnette] by jlbl Sep 18, 2008 (8:09 am)
Replying to: magnette (Sep 18, 2008 7:11 am) Wow!! Exactly. I was not confident it would take so little time to have it recognized. Magnette, you are a real connoisseur. It looks like an Autonacional Biscuter It is a Biscuter Zapatilla, 1953. 197 cc., 1 cyl. Chain transmission, but only to the frontal right wheel. No back gear. It was made following the design of the French Gabriel Voisin, who sold it to Autonacional Co. in Barcelona. Here are some more pictures. Although the Biscuter (from biscuit) was not exactly popular, they sold quite a number of them. 'You are as ugly as a Biscuter', people used to say at the epoque. Regards, Jose Replies to this message: andys120 (Sep 18, 2008 8:34 am) jlbl (Sep 18, 2008 8:58 am) magnette (Sep 18, 2008 9:01 am) jlbl (Sep 18, 2008 11:08 am)

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