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Re: ??> [lemko] by ssoperator
Jul 03, 2008 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 03, 2008 6:32 am)

Sharp looking Chevelle (Malibu?), The 73's were the last ones with the round tailights. They are the best looking year of the new for the 73 model year body style. My uncle bought a new one in 73, turned into a 'wish I had not let that one go story', with the exception of being in a flood and standing in water over the roof. I think that the simple uncluttered two round tailights worked on the '68 Chargers (the best looking cars of the first mucle car era), which this body reminds me of.
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Re: New> [jlbl] by andys120
Jul 03, 2008 (8:42 am)
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Replying to: jlbl (Jul 03, 2008 7:18 am)

That's correct Jose, it's the '09 version, a refresh of the 7er. Unfortunately for BMW everyone has adopted their signature "Hoffmeister Kink" on the C-Pillar so it does indeed look like a Hyundai or a Lexus.
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Odd Couple> by andys120
Jul 03, 2008 (8:46 am)
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Re: New> [qbrozen] by ateixeira
Jul 03, 2008 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jul 03, 2008 6:33 am)

I guess Hyundai succeeded when several of us are thinking a new BMW resembles a Hyundai.
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Highway Patrol! by lemko
Jul 03, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Re: Highway Patrol! [lemko] by ateixeira
Jul 03, 2008 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 03, 2008 10:12 am)

Ford....LTD?
 
Flush headlights make me think early 80s.
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Re: Highway Patrol! [lemko] by texases
Jul 03, 2008 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 03, 2008 10:12 am)

Not a Ford - a Plymouth or Dodge, mid 80s?
 
edit - 1980 Dodge St. Regis?
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Re: Highway Patrol! [lemko] by tmart
Jul 03, 2008 (10:33 am)
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Dodge Diplomat??
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Re: Highway Patrol! [lemko] by andre1969
Jul 03, 2008 (1:40 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 03, 2008 10:12 am)

It's a St. Regis, most likely a '79, because that was the only year they were semi-popular. They sold 34,972 in 1979, but only 17,068 in 1980 and a mere 5,388 in 1981, which would be a short model year. They made great police cars and taxis, but were not that popular with the general public.
 
I read somewhere that the 1979 St. Regis was actually voted, by cops, as one of the best police cars of all time. It didn't have the raw power of a '69 Polara 440, but was still a well-rounded police car that handled well, had plenty of room, was durable, if not always reliable, and was still the fastest full-sized police car available that year.
 
Just to show how bad things got after 1979, it wouldn't be until 1989 and the Caprice police pursuit, that full-sized copcars actually got back up to '79 St. Regis levels of performance! I think the Michigan State Police got a St. Regis with the 360-4bbl to do 0-60 in 10.1 seconds in their annual testing. The '89 Caprice did it in around 9.9. If these numbers sound slow, the MSP tested their cars differently from how MT or C&D might. They just put two cops in the car and let them take off as fast as they could, but without any power-braking, manually holding the gears, etc. So, this was probably more in line with the kind of numbers Consumer Reports might have gotten if they were testing police cars.
 
The St. Regis itself took a hit after 1979. For 1980, a 360-4bbl was still offered, but down to around 185 hp, from 195. 0-60 was more like 11.1 seconds...although that was still quicker than what Chevy or Ford were offering. The car's reputation also took a hit with the CHP because CA banned the 360 that year, so the cars just had 318-4bbls, putting out around 155-165 hp. Cops started carrying on about how VW Bugs would pass them going uphill, and anyone with a real musclecar would just taunt them, knowing they could easily walk them like a dog. In truth though, the 318-4bbl was good for about 13 seconds 0-60, and would still break 100 mph. While the power was down considerably, a lot of these cops were going through big-block withdrawal, probably having traded in late 70's Royal Monacos that still came with powerful (even by choked 70's standards) 440's.
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Re: Highway Patrol! [ateixeira] by andre1969
Jul 03, 2008 (1:43 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 03, 2008 10:19 am)

Ford....LTD?
  
Flush headlights make me think early 80s.

 
Actually, that is a good guess, because it was designed by Ford stylists. Some Ford people jumped ship to Chrysler before Iaccocca went over, so the same group that did the crisp, angular Fords also did the crisp, angular Mopars.

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