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Re: Four door> [andys120] by andre1969
Dec 16, 2007 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Dec 14, 2007 9:12 am)

Nope, it's the clone, a Dodge Diplomat
 
A Diplomat in what country? AFAIK, no Diplomat ever had that squared-off formal roof with the blanked-out quarter windows. Now there was a version of the Diplomat, sold from around 1985-89 called the SE, which used the 5th-Ave style front-end, with the turn signals above the headlights, and a crosshair grille. But it still had the normal roofline with the slightly sloped rear window and exposed rear quarter window glass.
 
Here's a pic of the SE:

 
While most Diplomats just looked like this:
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Re: More MoPar> [andys120] by andre1969
Dec 16, 2007 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Dec 14, 2007 3:31 pm)

I dunno, the '53 IMO seems a whole order of magnitude sleeker and more commanding than the '52 which is kinda frumpy by comparison and has little to distinguish it from Plymouths of the same year.
 
Chrysler did a pretty significant restyle on the 2- and 4-door sedan versions of their big DeSotos, Chryslers, and Imperials for 1953. In addition to the 1-piece windshield, they also re-did the roof around the rear, giving it sort of a reverse-slant C-pillar with a big wraparound rear window. It was similar to those PininFarina style Nashes, the '58 Chevy, or even, slightly, to a 2002 Altima. They also tried to integrate the rear fenders a bit better into the body, so they had less of a 40's style bolt-on look. The hardtop coupes still used the same 1952 roofline, and looked a bit dated, although they did at least incorporate the modernized rear fenders.
 
Now Dodge and Plymouth totally reskinned for 1953, resulting in a stubby, slab-sided look that didn't go over too well.
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Re: Red, White and Blue> [andys120] by subearu
Dec 16, 2007 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Dec 16, 2007 6:56 am)

Most certainly an AMC Rambler, it's a '69 (thanks to the front plate). Looks like the SC package. Potent little bugger on the 1/4 mile for the time.
 
-Brian
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Re: Red, White and Blue> [subearu] by toomanyfumes
Dec 16, 2007 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: subearu (Dec 16, 2007 9:11 am)

Wasn't it called the Scrambler?
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Re: Red, White and Blue> [toomanyfumes] by subearu
Dec 16, 2007 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: toomanyfumes (Dec 16, 2007 11:41 am)

Yeah, but figured Andy would say I was techically wrong since it wasn't actually named that but commonly known as the Scrambler.
 
-Brian
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softball alert by guss
Dec 16, 2007 (11:56 am)
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Re: softball alert [guss] by subearu
Dec 16, 2007 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: guss (Dec 16, 2007 11:56 am)

I live in SE Wisconsin where AMC (and Nash and Rambler and Chrysler) is home. While I'm no expert on the various AMC's and Jeeps, I do recognize 'em fairly well.
 
Your softball is the Jeep Scrambler, which was the pickup truck for the Jeep until the Comanche came out. I had an '87 Comanche if that matters.
 
-Brian
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Re: softball alert [subearu] by guss
Dec 16, 2007 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: subearu (Dec 16, 2007 12:54 pm)

Yup, dunno why Jeep never came out with another pick-up.
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Re: softball alert [guss] by andre1969
Dec 16, 2007 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: guss (Dec 16, 2007 12:59 pm)

Yup, dunno why Jeep never came out with another pick-up.
 
Probably because once Chrysler took them over, they figured that only Dodge should sell pickups, and let Jeep stay more true to its roots. How were those Commanches anyway, as pickups? The Cherokee upon which it was based was actually a unitized design, which doesn't lend itself well to pickup trucks. I know they had to design a partial frame to connect the bed and cab together. Earlier models used mainly AMC-4cyl engines or Chevy 2.8 V-6es, mated up to Chrysler torqueflite transmissions I think. But I think the later versions offered that HO AMC 4.0 inline 6?
 
My uncle had a 1976 Jeep pickup. I think they called it a Honcho or Hondo or something like that? It was a beefy, strong sucker. But also incredibly crude. Great farm truck or off-roader, but it was cramped for a full-sized pickup, at least by 1976 standards, rough riding, and incredibly thirsty. But I guess it's what a real "TRUCK" should have been, compared to the "car with a bed" that the breed was starting to turn into.
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Re: Red, White and Blue> [subearu] by andys120
Dec 16, 2007 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: subearu (Dec 16, 2007 11:45 am)

Some one more knowledgeable than me will have to sort out the exact nomenclature but according to the caption and Speed TV's Musclelcars it's a 69 AMC Scrambler.

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