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Diesel Fuel Economy and chips

391 messages,  Last post on Oct 28, 2009 at 4:28 AM

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Re: Trouble in deciding Gas or diesel? [firewalkerjohn] by nectarotg
Apr 27, 2008 (8:20 pm)
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Replying to: firewalkerjohn (Apr 26, 2008 6:50 am)

Thanks for the input. I just wish that fuel and oil prices weren't so high and it wouldn't even be a question?
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Re: Diesel Fuel Economy and chips [dolphin1963] by ehbwood
May 09, 2008 (10:58 pm)
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Replying to: dolphin1963 (Mar 04, 2008 8:29 am)

Hi, I have a 1995 F350 dually with the 7.3l diesel motor. It is stock and I am getting around 14 around town and 17 highway with no load. What would be the best bang for the buck I could use to increase my fuel economy? I don't really need more power and am only interested in using less gas per mile.
 
Your mpg is very impressive!
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Re: Diesel Fuel Economy and chips [ehbwood] by jim314
May 10, 2008 (4:39 am)
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Replying to: ehbwood (May 09, 2008 10:58 pm)

It is quite possible that all reported efficiency gains with aftermarket mods is due to the placibo effect.
 
So the best bang for the buck would be for you to drive your stock F350 as if you had just spent $1k to . . . ($4k?) on aftermarket mods and you are implementing the driving practices recommended by the producers of this gear. Don't they claim something like "their mods maximize the fuel economy gains of careful driving"?
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Towing Capacity 2007 F-250 by hd82
May 12, 2008 (8:13 am)
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What is the max towing of my '07 F-250 CrewCab 6.0 Diesel, Automatic. It is completely stock from factory, I am thinking of buying a travel trailer, possibilly 35 footer. I see the trailers weigh between 7,000 and 9,000 lbs, these are towable and not 5th wheel.
 
Thanks
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02 Golf TDI tuning chip by vwguy1776
May 17, 2008 (8:56 am)
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i've seen tuning chips ranging from $50 on Ebay to $500 elsewhere. is there a difference? does the chip significantly improve the fuel economy? does anyone have a link to any independent testing done on them? also, what about other options like cold air intakes and direct flow exhaust systems? are these things going to considerably improve my mileage as diesel soars? right now i dive my 02 tdi easy and get about 46 mpg on the average. thanks for your help and input!!!
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Re: 02 Golf TDI tuning chip [vwguy1776] by jim314
May 17, 2008 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: vwguy1776 (May 17, 2008 8:56 am)

No tuning chip or reflash of an ECU will improve mpg without risking engine damage. Just continue to drive carefully and do all maintenance on schedule.
 
Everyone wants a VW diesel right now; you are lucky to have one. Don't ruin the vehicle by messing with the engine controls.
 
A chip can improve torque and power by over-riding the mfgr's turbo boost limits and fuel program, but this will come at the expense of greater fuel consumption, not less, and risks engine damage and provides a basis for denial of warranty if you do have problems.
 
Be happy with your 46 mpg. Don't be greedy!
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Re: 02 Golf TDI tuning chip [jim314] by jim314
May 17, 2008 (4:17 pm)
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Replying to: jim314 (May 17, 2008 9:50 am)

PS Cold air intakes have no proven benefit. "Direct flow" exhaust systems change the back pressure that the engine designers have selected, and could be at variance with state and federal environmental laws and regulations.
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Re: 02 Golf TDI tuning chip [jim314] by jond09
May 19, 2008 (7:24 am)
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Replying to: jim314 (May 17, 2008 4:17 pm)

I guess VW diesel are deferent than every other diesel out there because everything your saying is not true of a diesel truck. I have a cummins and it is proven that all of these things will give you benefits/gains. And as long as you monitor all your important readings, EGT, Boost etc...you shouldn't have any problems. But I guess all of this could be deferent do to the nature of the vehicle. But still a diesel is a diesel. All of the factory settings are de-tuning your motor and holding it back. Because of emissions regulations and trying to be friendly to the environment. Every diesel motor made today for street use has the potential to make more power and be more efficient, but with the fuel these days and emissions they are held back. But yes if you abuse the extra power you can create there is always the possibility that you could have other components that might not be able to take it. Which is where the VW could be deferent. But every diesel truck can handle the slight gains in power if you are just looking for MPG increase and not trying to make a drag truck.
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2500 duramax 2007 by jcb5
May 27, 2008 (6:48 pm)
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i am thinkiong of getting one of these do you know the actual mpg for this truck.
thanks, jcb5
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Re: 02 Golf TDI tuning chip [jond09] by stevedebi
May 29, 2008 (11:02 am)
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Replying to: jond09 (May 19, 2008 7:24 am)

" But I guess all of this could be deferent do to the nature of the vehicle. But still a diesel is a diesel."
 
I just read a statement over on the F-150 MPG forum that Ford has programmed their black boxes to monitor the engine performance over time, and this would detect the fact that a chip has been installed, even if one pulls the chip before bringing it in for dealer service. If Ford has a way to discover that a chip has been used, they can void the engine and transmission warranty, i.e., refuse to fix them if they break.
 
I can't speak to the truth of the Ford "Black Box" capabilities, perhaps someone else has more details?

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