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Re: Fifth Wheel Pulling Mileage [north52]
by steergazer
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Apr 02, 2008 (6:03 am)
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Replying to: north52 (Mar 31, 2008 10:17 pm)
Your calculations are wrong unfortunately. I upgraded my dodge (06-5.9l) with a cold air intake and free flo exhaust and went from 23-17mpg but I believe that was due in large part to the fact that I installed 20" tires/wheels. I bought the workhorse module and am back up to 28mpg. The module is different than a chip because it actually peaks your stock computer settings to give max performance without the dumping of fuel as a chip does. Thus, no black smoke cloud. It doesn't give quite the power of some chips out there but is more than sufficient to compliment the stock power of the dodge. Think of it in terms of less fuel pedal to do the same job as before. I'm a believer!
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Re: Fifth Wheel Pulling Mileage [steergazer]
by jond09
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Apr 03, 2008 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: steergazer (Apr 02, 2008 6:03 am)
I also have a 06 5.9. 6"lift 38"tires and my calculations are not wrong because they are based on the combination of all the things you are describing. That is how you make power and allow your motor to run more efficiently. Doing one without the other you will never see the true benefits as with all together. And exactly as you describe you will make things less efficient. By adding a cold air intake and exhaust you are getting more air and getting the air out faster but without more fuel it does you no good. It will lower your EGT's and you might see a very small power increase but nothing like when adding more fuel along with this things. This goes back to the basic of any motor gas or diesel. I would bet that in some way the module is effecting your fuel. It might not be "dumping" fuel but it has to be getting more. Maybe the length of the injecter pulse or just more fuel out of it. Or both at the same time. I have an intake, exhaust and a chip and even with 38" tires I am still getting better fuel mileage than when it was stock. Yes I can blow black smoke if I want to but with it on a lower setting it doesn't smoke and gets better fuel mileage than stock. But even the lowest setting is still adding fuel
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- #317 of 391
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Re: Fifth Wheel Pulling Mileage [jond09]
by steergazer
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Apr 04, 2008 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: jond09 (Apr 03, 2008 5:05 pm)
Yes the module adds fuel, but in proper proportion to the amount of air it's getting. It doesn't give the engine more than it can burn, thus, no black cloud. I know a chip gives more power but the module peaks the stock computer to run at max efficiency so you are less likely to wreck drivetrain components. I would love a chip but as my truck is still under warranty, I opted for the module as it is undetectable. I was told by the dealer as soon as I bought it that a chip would void the warranty. I may have replied to the wrong guy as well!lol There was a ford guy saying that chips made fuel mileage worse. Mine gave me 11mpg better.
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Re: Fifth Wheel Pulling Mileage [steergazer]
by jond09
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Apr 05, 2008 (7:58 pm)
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Replying to: steergazer (Apr 04, 2008 8:04 am)
I think we are on the same page now about how everything works. What module do you have? Is it a downloader, like superchips? I have an edge juice with moniter. But also something to think about is that its illegal for a dealer to not warranty your vehicle just because you have a modification. It has to be a direct effect or cause of the problem for them to not warranty it. They are going to tell you lots of stuff thats not true because they ultimately don't want to pay for anything they don't have too.
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Re: Fifth Wheel Pulling Mileage [jond09]
by gord
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Apr 06, 2008 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: jond09 (Apr 05, 2008 7:58 pm)
Did you ever get the name of the module that steergazer had installed?
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- #320 of 391
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Re: Fifth Wheel Pulling Mileage [gord]
by jond09
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Apr 06, 2008 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: gord (Apr 06, 2008 11:35 am)
No not yet. I want to know because he said he got 11mpg increase which is extremely hard to believe. Maybe he's going off the digital read out and not actually mpg.
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Re: Fifth Wheel Pulling Mileage [gord]
by jim314
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Apr 06, 2008 (2:29 pm)
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Replying to: gord (Apr 06, 2008 11:35 am)
Was it steergazer who installed the workhorse module http://www.workhorsemodule.com/ ?
I see that the website says that the Workhorse Module can be uninstalled before servicing and "leaves no fingerprints." Hummmm. . . If you have to make a warranty claim, does the manufacturer ask you whether you have installed any aftermarket chip? If you did have a chip in it, what do you say?
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2001 f 250 @9 mpg!
by scarab26
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Apr 07, 2008 (9:23 am)
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I checked most everything, injectors,no fuel leaks,added exhaust 4" Super chip set on towing (programer out still poor) oversize tires 35" and the best I can do is 9 mpg HWY. Any Ideas? Trans not slipping, no brakes stuck. Back in the day I got 15+/- Any Ideas?
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"Banks System" anyone hear of this?
by hd82
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Apr 08, 2008 (1:28 am)
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I spoke to a guy yesterday that tells me he ordered a F-250 6 liter Crew cab from Ford and had them install a "Banks System" with 4" exhaust. He gets 22 mpg hwy and 17mpg city. He generates 500 HP, runs half the temp of other trucks according to his friends with similar trucks also says the whole thing was around $2,700.00!!! Anyone hear of this system and does it work.
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Re: "Banks System" anyone hear of this? [hd82]
by kcram HOST
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Apr 08, 2008 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: hd82 (Apr 08, 2008 1:28 am)
Gale Banks Engineering has been around for decades. They are generally reputable and even supplied the initial turbo package to GMC for the 6.2 liter diesel. As with any modification, of this magnitude, your mileage may varuy and you need to check that your vehicle will remain legal with such equipment.
Banks Power home page
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