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cold air intake by alaing
Mar 05, 2008 (7:08 pm)
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I have a 2008 f-250 super duty with 6.4 diesel twin turbo if I put an afe cold air intake filter will it void my warranty from ford motor
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Re: Diesel Fuel Economy and chips [dolphin1963] by mountainman8
Mar 08, 2008 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: dolphin1963 (Mar 04, 2008 10:54 pm)

Have you spoken to ford about these modifications and the ramifications? How long have you been driving with these mods? I have the noise you spoke of and all I found out was a short in the wiring harness. New harness, same noise. I am planning on installing a chip in the near future. I would like to know more details on where the check valves are located and where I can get a pressure regulator and the installation specifics.
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Re: Diesel Fuel Economy and chips [dolphin1963] by saeiden
Mar 10, 2008 (8:15 pm)
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Replying to: dolphin1963 (Mar 04, 2008 9:29 am)

dolphin1963,
    I'm a new member myself, I became one tonight after reading your post about increasing you MPG an additional 7.5 MPG. I am very interested in knowing how you did this especially because I payed $3.79 per gallon this evening for some of the green stuff.
 
    I have a 1999 F-250 7.3L, 4x4 Crew Cab Lariet edition with 4:10 gears (not as good as yours for millage I know but I am hoping to squeeze a little more out of her). The only mod I have right now is stock size K&N filter, which does help a little. I would love to put a lot of mods in her but the money is tight and from what I have read so far I'm not seeing a lot of bang for the buck in a new air intake, exhaust, and chip alone.
 
   I've had my beauty coming up on three years now and pretty soon the original exhaust will have to be replaced after 186,000+ miles on it. She's plenty broke-in.
 
I am interested and would like your help.
 
saeiden
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Re: Diesel Fuel Economy and chips [dolphin1963] by bigredmachine
Mar 24, 2008 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: dolphin1963 (Mar 04, 2008 9:29 am)

i have the same truck with a cold air kit, 5" straight pipe and bully dog 6 position chip and i runs great. i am curious what you did and how easy it was and the cost of it. you get get mileage, but i cannot get that good
thanks
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Re: Diesel Fuel Economy and chips [dolphin1963] by gymnasia
Mar 24, 2008 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: dolphin1963 (Mar 04, 2008 10:54 pm)

i see that you put all those part to get extra 8 mpg
is that on the 6.4
and how big of a job is it and did anybody else did it
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Still waiting for feedback by saeiden
Mar 24, 2008 (7:01 pm)
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So I'm still waiting for some feedback from [dolphin1963], just wondering what happened to you buddy.
 
Also, does anyone have any knowledge about the Edge Juice with Attitude on the 7.3L? I talked to one guy who is selling his Edge Juice with Attitude because he is getting a newer truck and he claims he leaves it on level 5 all the time a gets 22mpg on the highway and around 16-18 in the city.
Can anyone confirm or deny that, or is he just blowing smoke?
 
Thanks,
 
    saeiden
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Edge products by jsticher
Mar 27, 2008 (4:43 pm)
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Replying to: saeiden (Mar 24, 2008 7:01 pm)

I just bought a 2002 F250 7.3L crew cab SWB 4x4 lariat. Truck had 138,000 miles on it when I bought it Tuesday in Dallas Texas. I drove it home to Houston and arround town for the first two days on the fillup I did just south of Dallas. The guy I bought the truck from gave me a Edge Evolution programmer that he had bought from a friend (who traded his 7.3L in on a 6.0L) and said that he had never used it on the truck I bought from him. I deciced to put the "tow"(level 1) tune on the truck. I went and filled the truck back up and calculated 14.5 mpg running from Dallas to Houston and arround town. I went out at this point to I-10 and ran the truck 34.1 miles to another gas station. I reset the avg. computer when I started and it said that I was getting 26.5 mpg. I refilled the truck having put the 34.1 miles on it and only got 1.25 gallons of fuel in it. That is 27.2 mpg on paper! I thought the computer avg. on the truck was screwed up till I did the math myself. It's not much of a test but if it gets over 20 arround town and over 25 on the highway I will be shocked and happy all at he same time. I will try to post more as I drive it more. There are no other mods on this truck. LT 285/75-16 Michelin tires.
I set the cruise control on 70 for my test run.
 
Joe
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Fuel mileage on 2000 Ford 350 7.3 Diesel by dexlhill
Mar 28, 2008 (1:28 pm)
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No matter what I do city or highway I seem to get only 4.1 MPG. Does anyone have any suggestions. Others tell me I should be getting 17 or better unloaded. What possible causes might there be particularly on the highway. I know I can increase the air filter and exhause as well as retune the PROM, but there must be some other cause before I make other changes.
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Fuel Milleage by saeiden
Mar 28, 2008 (8:27 pm)
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First off Mr.jsticher you need to go to the Ford dealer and have them diagnose your truck and then have them send the specs to a dealership near Mr. dexlhill.
 
jsticher, if you would do all of us a favor and keep tracking your MPG using hard numbers and a calculator (the mileage displayed by truck really is not that accurate, if yours is lucky you). If I could ask you to do a little more work I'm curious just how much better your mileage is because of the Edge Evolution. Would you be willing to run a tank on stock settings to find out? This is the only way for any of us to get a really understanding of what works, thanks.
 
dexhill, all I have to say is WOW! I've never heard a 7.3L getting such poor mileage.... feel for you man. I'm getting around 12MPG right now with my 1999 7.3L and I'm feeling it I can't imagine how tick off you must be. You didn't mention if you just got the truck or if you've had is a while and it has always been like this or if it just started lately. Having a 4:10 rear end like mine vs. 3:73 rear end like our buddy Mr. jsticher does make a difference but not that significant. My truck for example will never see 22MPG because of my 4:10 rear end, however I might get up to 18 by the summer with some of the mod's I'm planning (air intake, exhaust, and programmer). Sounds like you have something very wrong with you truck to be getting that kind of mileage. I would recommend getting professional help. Is you Catalytic converter plugged? Is you truck unusually loud even for a 7.3L? If so you could have injector/ regulator problems. Does your tranny slip? If so your torque converter is probably bad. A bad converter won't lock up after 45Mph and your tranny will be running continually in fluid drive. The transfer rate of power from you engine to your drive line is around the mid to upper 80% where as the converter locking up gives you 100% transfer of power.
I certainly hope you figure it out, either way it sounds like you will be spending some money to solve the problem. You can't afford not to figure this out sooner rather than later. Good luck.
 
saeiden
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Re: Fifth Wheel Pulling Mileage [jmh577] by north52
Mar 31, 2008 (11:17 pm)
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Replying to: jmh577 (Jan 21, 2008 10:27 am)

John, I have a '05 F-350 with Ford's 6.0 liter Powerstroke. I bought it for the primary purpose of towing our 32ft 9500lb (dry/curb weight) 5th wheel RV. This truck handles the job very well. To date, I have made no modifications to the engine or drivetrain - I don't think I ever will. An alternate chip or reprogramming etc, will most likely provide a potential increase in power, but I have arrived at the conclusion that the (small) gain is not worth the expense or potential trouble. Understanding the basic rules of physics, you will realize that almost every engine mod will correspond to a decrease in fuel mileage. It's just a simple rule of use and conservation of energy. Input more fuel (and correspondingly, air) and the result will be more power - but this has to be at the cost of lower fuel mileage. There is no free lunch. The 6.0 liter is factory rated at 325HP and 575ft,lbs. of torque - this is fully adequate for all towing conditions that I have encountered. This includes drives through the Rocky Mountains. My two cents worth - I'm sticking with the factory design and settings!
(P.S. - my best towing mileage is - at best - about 60% of my "non-towing" mileage, but this is highly variable because I do not drive on the same terrain with the trailer as without; let alone the same speed!)

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