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Diesel Fuel Economy and chips

391 messages,  Last post on Oct 28, 2009 at 4:28 AM

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What is this discussion about? Ford F-250 Super Duty, Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD, Dodge Ram Pickup 2500, Ford F-350 Super Duty, Chevrolet Silverado 3500, Dodge Ram Pickup 3500, GMC Sierra 2500HD, GMC Sierra 3500, Fuel System, Performance Mods, Fuel System, Diesel, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Truck


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Re: 2008 F350 11 MPG [nuclear1] by rxpx40
Dec 31, 2007 (7:43 pm)
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Replying to: nuclear1 (Dec 31, 2007 6:07 pm)

You can expect to get about 12-15mpg.
On the other hand, I have a 2006 Dodge Ram Megacab 2500 4x4 that is getting me 22 mpg on my daily commute to/from work.
 
Chris
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Re: 2008 F350 11 MPG [nuclear1] by fordz1
Jan 01, 2008 (7:42 pm)
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Replying to: nuclear1 (Dec 31, 2007 6:07 pm)

I have the 6.4L Crew Cab Long bed DRW with a 4.10 axle. Currently I get 14.8 mpg empty mixed driving on my daily commute. On the hwy empty 60-65 mph about 16-17 mpg. Towing 14,500lb 5th-Wheel (you forget its back there) about 9.3-10.7 mpg. The truck computer is generous when figuring mpg so I calculate it myself. Hope this helps you in your search for a truck.
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Re: 2008 F350 11 MPG [nuclear1] by diehardford
Jan 05, 2008 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: nuclear1 (Dec 31, 2007 6:07 pm)

I have the 2008 F-250 6.4 crew cab 4x4 with 373 gears. with 15000 miles on it i'm getting 14.5 to 15 mixed back and forth to work and 16.5 to 18 on highway solo driving 60 to 70 . truck is stock; pulling 9000 lb camper I got 9.3 to 10.5 at 60 to 70 mph. truck only had about 4000 miles on it last time I pulled camper so towing mileage may be better now. Have not had any problems with truck and been very happy with it.
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Not sure what went wrong??? by steergazer
Jan 14, 2008 (11:48 am)
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I bought a 2006 Dodge Ram 3500 with a 5.9 litre diesel this summer. It's a 4x4 automatic. without a tonneau cover this summer I was still able to get 23mpg with it. I upgraded the to a K&N cold air intake, had the cat convertor taken out, and put 20" wheels on it to reduce my rpm's at highway speed. All the articles I read said this should give me between 4-8mpg improvement. It actually dropped! And with a tonneau which in itself is supposed to add up to 3mpg! Any thoughts? I can't chip it yet as I'm told it will void my warranty.
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Re: Dodge Sprinter Versus Duramax [joepajamas] by steergazer
Jan 14, 2008 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: joepajamas (May 30, 2005 1:10 pm)

My 2002 dodge ram 5.9l 2500 got 27mpg stock with the six speed standard tranny. I miss it as my new 06 3500 with the 5.9 is about 23mpg but I have to try. Both are quad cab short boxes.
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6.5L suburban by steergazer
Jan 14, 2008 (12:03 pm)
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I bought a 97 diesel suburban 4x4 at an auction as a non runner. Amazing shape! It runs but no oil pressure. I'm planning a rebuild and would like to make it as fuel efficient as possible. Any ideas as to what components I can change while I have the engine apart to achieve this? Cam is all I can think of. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Also, anybody who knows of a good place to get a rebuild kit would be handy as well. I have found several online but they vary in price so much it's hard to know if it's a good deal or pile of crap. Thanks in advance!
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Re: Not sure what went wrong??? [steergazer] by jim314
Jan 14, 2008 (12:20 pm)
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Replying to: steergazer (Jan 14, 2008 11:48 am)

What went wrong is that you believed people who didn't know what they were talking about and/or people who just wanted your money.
 
Changing to 20" wheels could possibly make a difference in true mpg when the vehicle was lightly loaded if the new tires had a higher overall diameter at the tread, but the odometer and speedometer would read lower than the true value unless you recalibrated to the new wheel diameter. Did you?
 
If the K&N cold air intake had some features that could possibly make a significant difference compared to the stock setup, don't you think Chrysler would have incorporated these features into their design? By modifying the air induction you may have caused the intake sensors to cause the ECM to add more fuel than in the stock set-up.
 
Taking out the catalytic converter to reduce exhaust backpressure could also mess up the engine controls. Isn't there feedback to the ECM from sensors having to do with the catalytic converter? Not to mention that it is illegal to remove the catalytic converter.
 
Experimental studies (including one on the TV show Mythbusters) have shown that an empty pickup bed with the tailgate up has less aerodynamic resistance than with the tailgate down or removed, or with a tonneau cover. However, a tonneau cover will at least keep your stuff from blowing away and from getting rained on.
 
Go back to stock and forget about the chips.
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Re: Not sure what went wrong??? [jim314] by steergazer
Jan 15, 2008 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: jim314 (Jan 14, 2008 12:20 pm)

I did have the speedo recalibrated. There is a noticable difference in power since installing the intake and having the cat removed. There were no sensors in the cat to deal with. I've kept it just in case this happened and it had to be re installed. I'm aware it's illegal, but if I had gained the mpg I was hoping It would be a case to argue against the environmental aspects. Guess I'll have to change things back one at a time to see where it went sideways!lol
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Re: Down side of chips [cflowers] by steergazer
Jan 15, 2008 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: cflowers (Aug 30, 2005 2:41 am)

Any idea if there are chips available that don't produce the cloud of unburnt fuel? I'd like one but the cloud that comes with it doesn't appeal to me. There has to be a smarter one available. I saw a show on the speed channel where they were comparing chips and there was one that had very little exhaust smoke but the phone rang and I didn't catch the name!lol
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Re: 6.0 Power Stroke Milage [rustedhogger] by steergazer
Jan 15, 2008 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: rustedhogger (Oct 08, 2005 6:59 am)

If you removed the 35" tires you'd notice a huge difference!lol It sucks but those cause massive fuel consumption both as power to get them rolling and aerodynamically. I'm having the same trouble with just 20" wheels. I lost about 4 mpg going from the stock 17's to 20's. But they look great!lol

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