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#159 of 391 NEED SERIOUS HELP W/ HORRIBLE WIRING AND FUEL ECONOMY? by opester Jun 22, 2006 (12:33 pm)
If anyone can advise to any problem listed I would greatly, greatly appreciate it:   I own a 2004 2500 HD Duramax Diesel with an Edge products (Juice) chip. Here is what I know about the truck that I thought may be causing some of the problems especially with the poor fuel economy: It has no catalytic converter, and has stainless exhaust from the turbo back. It is chipped as mentioned above. I am getting horrible fuel economy. I need help/suggestions desperately.   Here are some things that lead me to believe there is a wiring problem.   1) The remote (for unlocking/locking doors) – Remote 1 actually sets for driver 2 settings. Remote 2 actually sets for driver 1 settings. Unlock button of remote 1 actually locks the doors instead of unlocking. The mirror memory does not hold setting 98% of the time. After truck has been off and then restarted (regardless of amount of time – 5 mins. or for hours), mirrors move (usually down and in) from set memory position.   2) Edge Products (The Juice) computer chip – When truck is not running (even after 24 hour period), the exhaust gas temperature and engine temperature remain high. Example: when only the accessory is turned on (just enough to operate radio, windows, the Edge display unit, etc.) the exhaust gas temp. reading always displays in the high one hundreds (again, even after truck is not running for 1 to 48 hours – it doesn’t matter). This reading (EGT), jumps or fluxuates from 3 to 5 degrees up or down. The engine temp. reading (again after truck has been off for a lengthy amount of time) always displays a high number. Usually close to a hundred degrees or so. I would believe that when engine has not been running for many hours, that these displays should show close to, if not “0”. When engine is off, the “boost” and “load” displays on the Edge readout show “0” as they should.   3) 75 to 80% of the time, when truck is turned over and started, the “message center” display says, “battery not charging.” Although I have never had a battery related problem or any indication that battery(s) have or are losing charge.   4) Gas mileage is absolutely horrible. Average city mileage is 11 to 12 per gallon and highway average is 14 to 16 per gallon. This is driving the truck very light. Basically “babying” it and not nailing the pedal. I have tried various settings on the Edge chip display and have noticed very, very little if no difference. Setting 1 on the Edge is supposed to be a “mileage” setting and actually seems to be the worst.   I have thoroughly cleaned the air filter (which is an aftermarket “Tru-Flow” intake and filter). Changed the fuel filter. Pulled terminals were Edge wires lead into a re-plugged them in with the idea that this would “reset” the chip. Also attempted to “reset” everything by disconnecting the battery(s), waiting a period of time, and then reconnecting battery(s).   Regardless, I am pretty sure this shows that there is a wiring problem somewhere along the way. I am unsure how to go from here. Any and ALL suggestions again, will be greatly appreciated. Someone out there must have an answer.   Thank you. Replies to this message: zrtpilot (Jul 01, 2006 5:29 pm)
#160 of 391 Diesel Idling by wgreen4 Jun 23, 2006 (5:06 am)
I observe many people who have diesel pickups (of all kinds) letting them idle (while parked) for long periods rather than turning the engines off. My question is: Does this really make much sense? I can appreciate why an 18 wheeler requires the engine to run (keep batteries charged, load cool, etc) but is there a good reason why this is done on a personal vehicle? A secondary issue may be with additional noise and air pollution and with increasing a somewhat negative image some have of diesels in the first place. I think diesels are fantastic but I know many who hate the noise, etc. Thanks, Bill Replies to this message: elias (Jun 27, 2006 6:53 am) banshee1 (Aug 29, 2006 5:24 pm) wgreen4 (Sep 02, 2006 2:58 pm) winter2 (Sep 10, 2006 5:42 pm) and 4 more...
#161 of 391 Re: 2005 F350 6.0L PS GOT 20 MPG! [trendom] by buckaroo7 Jun 23, 2006 (8:56 pm)
Replying to: trendom (May 21, 2005 6:18 pm) I installed the Workhorse module in 2 minutes. I'm seeing 5-7 mpg. Lot's of extra get up and go. 2005 Dodge Ram SLT 4 Door 4x4 5.9 Diesel 20K miles
#162 of 391 Re: Diesel Idling [wgreen4] by elias Jun 27, 2006 (6:53 am)
Replying to: wgreen4 (Jun 23, 2006 5:06 am) Bill, i see lots of gasser drivers doing this too. i think it's absurd and that indicates fuel prices are not high enough. diesel drivers have a better justification for doing it in very cold weather however due to difficulty in very-cold-starts. but i see them doing it in warm weather too. mostly i think it's diesel-drivers who want to pretend they are driving big-rigs! i see VW TDI drivers doing it too! for each vehicle there is a tradeoff point where it makes sense to turn off the engine - for a certain duration of parking. i understand that for gassers that tradeoff point is less than one minute of parking. for diesel 4x4s perhaps the tradeoff point is a bit longer - a couple minutes maybe?
#163 of 391 Re: NEED SERIOUS HELP W/ HORRIBLE WIRING AND FUEL ECONOMY? [opester] by zrtpilot Jul 01, 2006 (5:29 pm)
Replying to: opester (Jun 22, 2006 12:33 pm) I can't help you with the wireing issue, but with my 01 dmax i averaged 12-14 city 16-17 hiway befor tunner. I have a Bullydog Triple Dog Tunner. Mileage went up 4.8 mpg Towing or empty.I was hauling 12k travel trailers for FEMA last October. Did 10k in 2 weeks. Two trips without chip 8.9 at 75 empty coming home 15.1 at 80. 4 runs with tunner 13.9 at 75, 19.9 at 80 on a truck with 135k on it. I have 8k on my new 06 and just loaded the 06 updates. Already picked up 2.5 on only 1/2 tank of fuel. It sounds like something wrong with your programmer. Best thing about the Triple Dog is once you buy it it will work on any dodge,ford or dmax.Just get on their web site and download their updates for the different truck. Hope this helps.
#164 of 391 Re: Dodge Ram Diesel Chip Actual Experience [taxspeaker] by dfh10 Jul 04, 2006 (1:31 pm)
Replying to: taxspeaker (Oct 02, 2005 9:44 am) Please reply with what kind of chip you have and any other info you feel would be helpfull.. I have a 2006 RAM 2500 with cummins turbo diesel. I get 14-14.5 city and pulling a boat 18-19 on the highway at 65mph.. Thanks Dave dfh10sbcglobal.net Replies to this message: taxspeaker (Jul 14, 2006 5:49 pm)
#165 of 391 Re: Dodge Ram Diesel Chip Actual Experience [dfh10] by taxspeaker Jul 14, 2006 (5:49 pm)
Replying to: dfh10 (Jul 04, 2006 1:31 pm) We were using the Edge chip. Over the winter all of a sudden it caused the engine to act like I had a bad tank of fuel-decreasing power, cutting out, finally stopped running. I removed the chip, had the dealer reset the air flow to standard and have not had another problem, nor have I re-installed the chip.   I am now considering a different module-truck now has 62,000 miles, mileage is 19.2 overall, but that isnt good enough
#167 of 391 Re: Not all the same [frankoduramax] by jim314 Jul 30, 2006 (4:05 pm)
Replying to: frankoduramax (Apr 10, 2006 8:59 pm) If one changes to lager diameter tires and does not recalibrate the speedometer/odometer then the vehicle is actually travelling faster and farther than the gauges indicate. So the true mpg would be greater than what the uncorrected odometer would give.
#168 of 391 Help w/ poor fuel economy 2006 cummins diesel by dwd Aug 20, 2006 (10:20 am)
I have a 2006, quad cab 4x4 3500 Cummins diesel, with 315 off-road tire. I have been getting poor fuel economy from day one, 12.5-14.5. Most of my driving is highway driving in the Texas hillcountry. I started using a superchip flashpag re-programmer after about 6,000 miles. Once I started using the re-programmer I started checking the actual mileage, from gallons to fill up/miles on odometer, vs the mileage the onboard overhead computer is telling me i am getting. I found that the mileage the computer was telling me was vastly different from what i actually measured. Using the superchip "Performance" program the computer would tell me I was getting 22-24mpg on the highway and 20-21 average around the ranch, highway. I was actually getting 15-16 average. The superchip programmer lets you adjust for the larger tire size so assuming this works the speedometer and odometer should be adjusted for the larger tire size. I recently went on a long highway trip from central Texas to Colorado Springs. I checked the mileage at every stop and was consciously keeping my speed under 70 in an effort to maximize my fuel economy. I had the computer set to the Superchip performance program. Same results, the onboard computer said I was getting 22 mpg but the measured mpg was never better than 16, usually 15 or so. I have recently set the truck back to the stock program. The computer tells me I am getting 15 mpg or so but I am actually getting 12.5 mph or so. I don't have a lot of confidence that the dealer will be motivated to find the cause of my poor fuel economy. Any help, insight or suggestions will be appreciated. dwd Replies to this message: jim314 (Aug 20, 2006 11:15 am) kcram (Aug 20, 2006 4:13 pm) dwd (Aug 20, 2006 4:30 pm) and 4 more... dwd (Aug 20, 2006 4:24 pm)

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