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#52 of 1379 Re: Auto maintainenance and collective guilt [600kgolfgt] by biggus3 May 11, 2005 (8:41 pm)
Replying to: 600kgolfgt (May 11, 2005 10:38 am) Not to get off subject, but I think you need to take it easy. This is a comparison discussion that is bound to have conflicting opinions. There are a lot of people here who are really into their particular vehicle, Mazda or VW. That is bound to lead to controversy/argument. You can take your moral high ground, but if you cant take a little heat please avoid belittling those below you who dont mind a little friendly bickering. Replies to this message: 600kgolfgt (May 12, 2005 2:17 am)
#53 of 1379 Re: Auto maintainenance and collective guilt [biggus3] by 600kgolfgt May 12, 2005 (2:17 am)
Replying to: biggus3 (May 11, 2005 8:41 pm) Agreed. But there is a BIG difference between a friendly discussion/argument and a personal attack - especially when said poster doesn't even know me. Now tell me if this isn't an example of a personal attack:   >Thats what warantees are for Einstein. If it pukes, they'll fix it.   As far as the taking it easy comment, your intentions are good, but your comments are pointed in the wrong direction.   BTW - As a military veteran who has been in more than his share of hotspots, I know a little something about taking heat... And believe me, when push comes to shove, I can dish out a hell of a lot of heat. But I prefer not to. There's enough conflict going on in the world as it is...   Believe me, I would much rather spend my time using my 20+ years of experience with cars (especially VWs) to help people than to take potshots at them.
#54 of 1379 OK - back on subject by Sylvia STAFF May 12, 2005 (6:06 am)
Let's compare the vehicles - agree to disagree when needed and remain civil.   Thanks!
#55 of 1379 Thats what warantees are for Einstein. If it pukes, they'll fix it by z71bill May 12, 2005 (6:31 am)
I have never owned a VW - so I can't comment about them - but Mazda does not stand behind their cars - they in fact do not honor their warranty.   My car has been puking its guts out for over a year - more than 12 trips into the dealership for (what should be) warranty problems.   But my brakes still make loud grinding noises when I stop, my AC system is still a defective piece of junk, loud thumping sounds are still coming from my front end when I hit little bumps in the road - all normal conditions according to Mazda.   A warranty is only as good as the company that is standing behind it - and in Mazda's case - that is not very good. Replies to this message: blueguydotcom (May 12, 2005 7:54 am) mz3b (May 12, 2005 3:59 pm)
#56 of 1379 OK, Bill's found his way over here. by mdaffron May 12, 2005 (6:53 am)
Let's agree to disagree. Bill has gotten himself a lemon, and he is one of the few. I own a 2005 Mazda3 5-door and the a/c is flawless, my brakes do not grind, there are no strange thumping noises, etc. And most of the owners over on the Mazda3 Problems & Solutions discussion have told Bill the same story.   Also, I owned a Mazda B2300 pickup truck back in the late '90s and Mazda helped me immensely when that truck's engine went south about two years into ownership.   As always, people's mileage varies on this subject. But I don't think a blanket "Mazda does not stand behind their cars" is fair here. I'm 40 years old and unless I was just plain stupid, I would not have just purchased my sixth new Mazda vehicle if Bill's allegations were true across-the-board.   Meade
#57 of 1379 Re: Thats what warantees are for Einstein. If it pukes, they'll fix it [z71 by blueguydotcom May 12, 2005 (7:54 am)
Replying to: z71bill (May 12, 2005 6:31 am) My car has been puking its guts out for over a year - more than 12 trips into the dealership for (what should be) warranty problems.   Go to a different dealer.    But my brakes still make loud grinding noises when I stop, my AC system is still a defective piece of junk, loud thumping sounds are still coming from my front end when I hit little bumps in the road - all normal conditions according to Mazda.   Bummer.    A warranty is only as good as the company that is standing behind it - and in Mazda's case - that is not very good.   Owned mazdas for 15 years. Never had an issue. Luck of the draw?   Owned VW, had major issues. Still I'll consider going back to VW. I'm used to German cars being poorly engineered. Just the normal facts of life. Replies to this message: mz3b (May 12, 2005 3:59 pm)
#58 of 1379 Re: mz3 [blueguydotcom] by curiousg May 12, 2005 (12:40 pm)
Replying to: blueguydotcom (May 10, 2005 6:47 pm) The R32 has a completely different rear suspension that the Mk IV - it too is independant. That is one of the reasons (plus AWD) that the R32 is WAY better handling car than other Mk IV Golfs/Jettas
#59 of 1379 Re: Auto maintainenance and collective guilt [600kgolfgt] by mz3b May 12, 2005 (3:34 pm)
Replying to: 600kgolfgt (May 11, 2005 10:38 am) Why is Einstein such a personal attack?? He was a real fart smella'....er I mean smart fella'   I thought that arguement didn't make any sense thats all. Neither does keeping a car for nine hundred million miles.....Hint: Let the clown car go dude.....take a snapshot of the odometer and stick it to your fridge or something.   Me.....I'll always have a relatively new car after buying new which means I'l l probubly always have payments....but hey, you can't take it with you when you're dead (the money that is). So I'm going to drive a drivers car and yes feed my ego. I'll leave the VWs to those who settle for average. Replies to this message: Sylvia (May 12, 2005 3:57 pm) 600kgolfgt (May 12, 2005 7:21 pm) mz3b (May 13, 2005 8:24 am) 600kgolfgt (May 13, 2005 6:26 pm) and 12 more...
#60 of 1379 Re: Auto maintainenance and collective guilt [mz3b] by Sylvia STAFF May 12, 2005 (3:57 pm)
Replying to: mz3b (May 12, 2005 3:34 pm) Let's keep the discussion on the vehicles and not get caught up in the personal barbs. We aren't discussing Einstein here.   Keep it civil, agree to disagree and move on.   If anyone has issues with another member's behavior, please take it up with me in email and do not derail the conversation here.   Thanks!

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