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Mazdaspeed3 vs. VW V GTI vs. Civic Si

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Re: Here's the article... [mz3b] by creakid1
May 10, 2005 (11:30 pm)
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Replying to: mz3b (May 10, 2005 5:12 pm)

"He said in a straight line its pissa' but the RX8 eats it up in the corners (his wife has an RX8). I know, different classes of cars but a testament to Mazda's overall handling characteristics. Also a really short wheelbased Golf with suspension mods should be somewhat comparable to a larger wheelbased RX8, dont 'cha find??"
 
No way! After being educated by the "all you can test drive" in the two MazdaRevItUp events, I'd stay away from heavy front overhang, especially Audi designs & even the 6-cyl Mazda6. You'll be surprised how the light-nose RX-8 beats even the Beemer in ride/handling compromise. Go test drive a base 16"-wheel RX-8 automatic. It'll leave you scratching your head & wonder, "Why does it ride smoother over bumps than the 3i & still out handle the 3S by a huge margin?"
 
If Ford can adopt the Volvo platform for the Five Hundred, then the RX-8 chassis should be donated as Ford/Mazda's next Lexus-IS-&-Beemer-beater roomy sedan. So far, only the next Miata shares that chassis.
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Re: Reliability? VW? In the same sentence?! [mz3b] by 600kgolfgt
May 11, 2005 (2:16 am)
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Replying to: mz3b (May 10, 2005 4:51 pm)

1975 Scirocco - Original engine
1987 Golf GT - 1 engine/transmission swap at 429,000 miles.
 
Any questions?
 
Contrary to the majority of drivers today - I actually MAINTAIN my vehicle. All of these drivers in their "tuned" cars know everything about adding on the latest turbos, suspensions, spoilers, etc., but know little about properly maintaining their cars for the long haul.
 
Drive whatever you want, dude - and have fun with your zoom-zoom. All I know is I have the background and experience (in mechanics and engineering) to make your own car last longer than the average driver will . My record speaks for itself (4 cars in 25+ years of driving)...
 
B.T.W. - I left the "my car is better than your car" argument back in the schoolyard many years ago.... What may be good for me may not be good for you - and vice-versa.
 
Enjoy!
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Re: Here's the article... [creakid1] by 600kgolfgt
May 11, 2005 (2:23 am)
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Replying to: creakid1 (May 10, 2005 11:30 pm)

If Ford/Mazda/Volvo is building cars for the European market, they will also have to comply with the new regulations concerning pedestrian-friendly car design - which means we may be seeing a lot more long-nosed car designs in the future - unfortunately...
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Re: Here's the article... [creakid1] by mz3b
May 11, 2005 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: creakid1 (May 10, 2005 11:30 pm)

It'll leave you scratching your head & wonder, "Why does it ride smoother over bumps than the 3i & still out handle the 3S by a huge margin?"
 
Again, as I said before, a testament to Mazda's handling charactaristics.
 
Also I would hardly call a Golf heavy. You brought up Audi, I was talking VW Jiblets.
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Re: Auto maintainenance and collective guilt [600kgolfgt] by mz3b
May 11, 2005 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: 600kgolfgt (Apr 16, 2005 4:50 pm)

buying their car during their first one or two years of production. By doing so, these unfortunate people have volunteered to become beta testers for the automotive industry
 
Thats what warantees are for Einstein. If it pukes, they'll fix it.
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Re: Here's the article... [600kgolfgt] by creakid1
May 11, 2005 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: 600kgolfgt (May 11, 2005 2:23 am)

"If Ford/Mazda/Volvo is building cars for the European market, they will also have to comply with the new regulations concerning pedestrian-friendly car design - which means we may be seeing a lot more long-nosed car designs in the future - unfortunately..."
 
Long nose, yes, but the nose will be empty & "airbag" light, so won't hurt the handling. Check out my profile & see why my empty rear overhang (spare tire located far forward) allows each oversteer be brought back instantly.
 
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Re: Here's the article... [mz3b] by creakid1
May 11, 2005 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: mz3b (May 11, 2005 8:24 am)

" 'It'll leave you scratching your head & wonder, "Why does it ride smoother over bumps than the 3i & still out handle the 3S by a huge margin?" '
  
Again, as I said before, a testament to Mazda's handling charactaristics."
 
I was saying FWD cars usually need to place the engine-weight ahead of the front axle in order to keep the traction when going up hill on slippery surface, hence hurts the handling. So neither the Golf nor the Mazda3 can match a RWD RX-8's handling, especially w/ a light rotary located way aft. Why do you think the RX-8 has to drive the rear wheels? Obviously its weak-toque engine can't jack-rabbit launch the car forward w/ the rear wheels spinning.
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Re: Auto maintainenance and collective guilt [mz3b] by 600kgolfgt
May 11, 2005 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: mz3b (May 11, 2005 8:32 am)

>Thats what warantees are for Einstein. If it pukes, they'll fix it.
 
What's with the personal attacks and arrogance? I'm trying to participate in a mature, rational dialogue, and you resort to personal attacks. If you want to have a discussion like an adult, then I'll be more than happy to continue. If not, then I don't see any point in continuing the discussion...
 
Enjoy feeding your ego with your Mazda, dude...
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Re: Here's the article... [creakid1] by 600kgolfgt
May 11, 2005 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: creakid1 (May 11, 2005 9:17 am)

Ah, a Mk1 1984 Jetta - reminds me of the good old days of my 1975 Mk1 Scirocco.
 
Can you imagine dropping a heavily modded 16v engine or 1.8T in a 1800lb chassis would do for its performance? The car would go as if it were shot out of a cannon.

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