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Hatchbacks Mazda3 Mazdaspeed3 vs. VW V GTI vs. Civic Si
1379 messages, Last post on Oct 01, 2009 at 10:54 AM
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Replying to: puffin1 (Sep 25, 2009 7:03 am) |
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Replying to: eldaino2 (Sep 23, 2009 8:45 am) |
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Replying to: cz75 (Sep 25, 2009 9:45 pm) I was lookining at a Scion XD because you can trick it out and not void the warranty. However, no sunroof and I'd have to switch out or modify front seats for them to be heated. My best bet is to buy a gas Golf 3 dr and put an armrest in it.Volkswagon Golf is not that bad on price,but the TDI Golf I can get with s/r heated seats,manual for $24k and I think thats too much. Diesal fuel here is.$64 a gallon more than gas. Also, if something goes like a fuel pump in a diesal,I'd be out alot of bucks.VW isn't known for that good quality to gamble on them.The extended warranty you have to haggle down from 2k. Also, the dealers I've been to don't seem to want to deal right now. This economy is still down and maybe next spring or summer we will see some incentives. Well, have a good day. 
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Replying to: puffin1 (Sep 28, 2009 9:24 am) but if you only want a two door, well then yea i see your point. the golf tdi is on a much different mission...and it offers torque that neither honda could supply unless you were turbo/supercharging it. diesel would be more expensive yes...but you would be looking at regular 500 mile tanks. and the interior? pfftt! the golf knows no competiton. (if stuff like that is important to you,which i'm assuming it is since you listed the acuras interior as being 'nicer' than the si.) |
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Replying to: cz75 (Sep 25, 2009 9:45 pm) 215hp? where did you hear about this from? 215 from the current k20? great, that means it will have only a couple more lb-ft of torque. and that means it will have to have AMAZING handling to make up for it, or weigh nothing. NOW...if thats 215hp from a tsx sourced k24 four cylinder, there is at least 165lb-ft of twist in that motor, and if they keep weight about the same/less, it may give the si the edge it needs to keep up.
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Replying to: puffin1 (Sep 28, 2009 9:24 am) The Si sedan back seat folds down, but it won't load to the ceiling like a hatchback will. I don't like using my car like a truck, but I did own Integras for over ten years and it helped moving things from college and grad school. Diesels are 30% more fuel efficient, so is 64 cents more/gal. a 30% difference over gas? Here it is within a quarter between regular and diesel and has been within a nickel a couple months ago; last year it cost more than premium. |
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Replying to: eldaino2 (Sep 28, 2009 10:27 am)
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Replying to: cz75 (Sep 28, 2009 6:24 pm) wow so the current civic is going for a 6 year run huh? interesting. i just hope it has some torque. dont like the euro civic eh? lol, i personally like when honda is a bit daring. they honestly need to go back to their roots the way VW did, i guess they dont because the ep3 left such a bad taste in everyones mouth. thanks for the info though cz75, i'll check out TOV.
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Replying to: eldaino2 (Sep 29, 2009 5:50 am) The new Euro Civic looks energetic & handsome. W/o looking at its badge, you'd think its the modern version of the old Scirocco/Corrado, while the re-borned Scirocco today looks wimpy/dumpy & not too different from the old '92 Civic. LOL See post #1349 http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef6c2da/1348#MSG1348 But no matter how handsome it is, this Euro Civic w/ simple strut-front/beam-rear suspension (just like the Fit) makes me proud b/c my '2000 Civc hatch w/ double-wishbone suspension FRONT & BACK & 103" wheelbase (w/ customized pwr windows/locks/mirrors, DVD/navigation, Monaco driver seat, front sway bar, softer springs from LX sedan, etc.) now feels like the most high-tech tiny car in world! Even today's Mazda3, which does not have multilink front suspension, is heavy & bulky like a barge by comparison 
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Replying to: creakid1 (Sep 29, 2009 7:27 pm) I don't know if you were trying to be sarcastic or not. But, IIRC, that gen of Civic Si was not a hatch. Not here in the US anyway... Even today's Mazda3, which does not have multilink front suspension, is heavy & bulky like a barge by comparison Todays Mazda3 is bigger then many cars from 10 years ago. C'mon..gimme a break. The Mazda3 does have multilink rear though and has best in class handling. That is what matters. Not what hit the streets 10 years ago.
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