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Mazdaspeed3 vs. VW V GTI vs. Civic Si

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Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [cz75] by goose
Sep 11, 2009 (2:49 pm)
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Replying to: cz75 (Sep 10, 2009 10:19 pm)

Well I have a 2008 Civic EX and driven the 2010 Mazda 3 5 door GT. I know the Si is more "fun" than my Civic however primary difference is engine and tighter suspension. The rest is the same as my Civic such as interior design, materials, noise level and reliability. I have also driven the 2010 Accord Coupe, 2009 Lexus IS 250, Hyundai Genesis Coupe V6, Acura TSX and TL. All within the last 6 months. The 2010 Mazda 3 is a definite upgrade from the Civic. However the Mazdaspeed 3 is the direct competitor against the Si. If you want kid like driving dynamics then the Honda product is fine. If you're looking for an upgrade but still want to stay under $27K and get good MPG then the Mazda 3 is a better vehicle. The whole package is more mature such as interior layout, instrumentation design, stereo option, exterior lighting and improved sound dampening. It has options that the Civic doesn't even offer. No i don't want the local youth training center (stereo shop) modifying my car either. The only issue is getting past that Mazda 3 grin. But I wont buy anther Civic. I'm over it. If its not the grinning car then I'll pay more and get a Accord Coupe or take my chances with a 2010 VW GTI.
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Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [cz75] by aviboy97
Sep 12, 2009 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: cz75 (Sep 10, 2009 10:19 pm)

Have you motor mounts broken yet?
 
Common...a select few early 2007's were effected
 
Should I bring up the early transmission problems and quality control issues with the SI? Or is that all of a sudden unfair because it speaks badly about Honda?
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Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [aviboy97] by cz75
Sep 22, 2009 (9:52 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 12, 2009 7:49 am)

Or Honda's bad 5-speed autos. Of course, I'd counter with Mazda's overall lesser reputation and the ungodly oil consumption of the earliest renesis engines and their currently miserable oil consumption. I also seem to recall Three owners having A/C issues.
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well by eldaino2
Sep 23, 2009 (8:45 am)
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both companies have had problems.
 
mazda may have a lesser reputation with reliablity, but honda has a lesser reputation on sportiness. (something that they seem to be trying to do away with. the civic is nice, some semblance of sportiness, and the fit is a blast, but aside from the si and the fit, hondas in general seem to have lost the sporty touch they once had.) i wonder what the next civic will bring to the table...
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Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [goose] by puffin1
Sep 25, 2009 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: goose (Sep 11, 2009 2:49 pm)

I didn't get the Mazda on account of the smily face either. I'm getting the GTI only because to me it has the best realiability than the Jetta,Golf and Rabbit.
               It's too bad Acura dropped the RSX S model. Don't compare the SI civic to the RSX Type S a much better built and comfortable ride. I had one and it was bullit proof.
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Re: well [eldaino2] by puffin1
Sep 25, 2009 (7:03 am)
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Replying to: eldaino2 (Sep 23, 2009 8:45 am)

yup, Mazda caught Honda with the 3 model.Civic can't compete with a Mazda 3.
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Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [puffin1] by eldaino2
Sep 25, 2009 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: puffin1 (Sep 25, 2009 7:01 am)

I'm getting the GTI only because to me it has the best realiability than the Jetta,Golf and Rabbit.
 
actually, the GTI, while much better than the mkIV gti's, has had the worst reliability of all the cars you just mentioned. the rabbit has enjoyed the best.
 
It's too bad Acura dropped the RSX S model. Don't compare the SI civic to the RSX Type S a much better built and comfortable ride. I had one and it was bullit proof.
 
do you have proof it was 'built' better? the rsx was nice, but the reason they dropped it was becuase it didnt empart a premium feel, and the leather offered was anything but premium. not to mention that when the new si came out, it was so close in price, the only real thing the rsx offered over the si WAS leather seating.(and maybe better steering feel.)
 
 and it didnt have a limted slip differential like the new si does. (though i like the seats in the non leather rsx better.)
 
but you do get more car with the civic si than you do with the rsx-s.
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Re: well [puffin1] by cz75
Sep 25, 2009 (9:42 pm)
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Replying to: puffin1 (Sep 25, 2009 7:03 am)

The Si competes just fine with the Three; what it can't compete against is the MS3.
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Re: well [eldaino2] by cz75
Sep 25, 2009 (9:45 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino2 (Sep 23, 2009 8:45 am)

The next Si is supposed to bring 215hp to the table. I hope it doesn't bring Honda's recent atrocious styling too.
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Re: well [cz75] by puffin1
Sep 28, 2009 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: cz75 (Sep 25, 2009 9:45 pm)

The SI isn't a HB the RSX was.I need a HB.You can't go to home depot w/SI can you?If so I'd buy one.
                I was lookining at a Scion XD because you can trick it out and not void the warranty.
    However, no sunroof and I'd have to switch out or modify front seats for them to be heated. My best bet is to buy a gas Golf 3 dr and put an armrest in it.Volkswagon Golf is not that bad on price,but the TDI Golf I can get with s/r heated seats,manual for $24k and I think thats too much. Diesal fuel here is.$64 a gallon more than gas.
              Also, if something goes like a fuel pump in a diesal,I'd be out alot of bucks.VW isn't known for that good quality to gamble on them.The extended warranty you have to haggle down from 2k.
               Also, the dealers I've been to don't seem to want to deal right now. This economy is still down and maybe next spring or summer we will see some incentives.
  Well, have a good day.

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