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#1350 of 1379 More Euro stuff: lowered widened "GTI" & widened Mazdaspeed3' bro
by creakid1
Jun 19, 2008 (10:24 pm)
w/ more cylinder & 280hp:
C-1 platform
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_website/gallery.php?id=267372
http://newsletter.autoexpress.co.uk/c/1fWJ5DRlILT5QaEg
"Striking details include flared wheelarches, giving the RS a wider track for better high-speed stability."
VW
http://newsletter.autoexpress.co.uk/c/1fWJizq9PQGWc4EF
"But the best news is that the new suspension settings and redesigned back axle, plus the chassis’s lower centre of gravity, all help make the Scirocco even better to drive than the Golf GTI. The wider track gives it greater grip and cornering composure, and although there is some body roll, it’s well contained.
Overall, the Scirocco feels more agile and responsive than the GTI, while retaining that car’s sense of enthusiasm. There’s even the option of different driving modes. The Adaptive Chassis Control set-up allows you to select Comfort, Normal or Sport settings, which adjust not only the stiffness of the dampers, but also the steering weight and"
#1351 of 1379 Re: More Euro stuff: lowered widened "GTI" & widened Mazdaspeed3' bro [crea
by aviboy97
Jun 21, 2008 (10:10 am)
Not really the right thread for this comparo??
#1352 of 1379 Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [carfanatic007]
by 08speed3
Aug 07, 2009 (8:37 am)
LOL I live in Columbus and I'll race you, 08' speed 3 and yeah you can bring an SI to boot. I dont get what you all are talking about, the VW and SI are both slow as well as the speed, and if you spend enough money we all know that you can make a turd fly but if you really want to fast car try a V-8 that puts down 500+ hp, and have an SI, VW, or MSP3 as a daily car...
Oh Civics Suck, and look like crap....
#1353 of 1379 Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [08speed3]
by roadburner
Aug 07, 2009 (9:56 pm)
You must be a regular from Mazda247...
#1354 of 1379 Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [roadburner]
by aviboy97
Aug 14, 2009 (8:00 am)
You must be a regular from Mazda247...
LOL!!!!!
Typical childish stuff you commonly see there. Edmunds is not the place for that type of talk.
#1355 of 1379 Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [08speed3]
by cz75
Sep 10, 2009 (11:19 pm)
Can't look any worse than the new MS3 and the stupid grin Mazda gave it.
Have you motor mounts broken yet?
#1356 of 1379 Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [cz75]
by goose
Sep 11, 2009 (3:49 pm)
Well I have a 2008 Civic EX and driven the 2010 Mazda 3 5 door GT. I know the Si is more "fun" than my Civic however primary difference is engine and tighter suspension. The rest is the same as my Civic such as interior design, materials, noise level and reliability. I have also driven the 2010 Accord Coupe, 2009 Lexus IS 250, Hyundai Genesis Coupe V6, Acura TSX and TL. All within the last 6 months. The 2010 Mazda 3 is a definite upgrade from the Civic. However the Mazdaspeed 3 is the direct competitor against the Si. If you want kid like driving dynamics then the Honda product is fine. If you're looking for an upgrade but still want to stay under $27K and get good MPG then the Mazda 3 is a better vehicle. The whole package is more mature such as interior layout, instrumentation design, stereo option, exterior lighting and improved sound dampening. It has options that the Civic doesn't even offer. No i don't want the local youth training center (stereo shop) modifying my car either. The only issue is getting past that Mazda 3 grin. But I wont buy anther Civic. I'm over it. If its not the grinning car then I'll pay more and get a Accord Coupe or take my chances with a 2010 VW GTI.
#1357 of 1379 Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [cz75]
by aviboy97
Sep 12, 2009 (8:49 am)
Have you motor mounts broken yet?
Common...a select few early 2007's were effected
Should I bring up the early transmission problems and quality control issues with the SI? Or is that all of a sudden unfair because it speaks badly about Honda?
#1358 of 1379 Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [aviboy97]
by cz75
Sep 22, 2009 (10:52 pm)
Or Honda's bad 5-speed autos. Of course, I'd counter with Mazda's overall lesser reputation and the ungodly oil consumption of the earliest renesis engines and their currently miserable oil consumption. I also seem to recall Three owners having A/C issues.
Sep 23, 2009 (9:45 am)
both companies have had problems.
mazda may have a lesser reputation with reliablity, but honda has a lesser reputation on sportiness. (something that they seem to be trying to do away with. the civic is nice, some semblance of sportiness, and the fit is a blast, but aside from the si and the fit, hondas in general seem to have lost the sporty touch they once had.) i wonder what the next civic will bring to the table...