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Mazdaspeed3 vs. VW V GTI vs. Civic Si

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#1348 of 1379 Re: Mazda3's bro (C-1 Focus) vs Civic's bro (hatch w/ Fit-like beam suspension) [creakid1] by roadburner Mar 09, 2008 (5:05 pm)
Replying to: creakid1 (Mar 09, 2008 4:10 pm) Problem is, Honda doesn't send the Civic three door over here, and I wanted a hatch(the same reason I passed on the 1 Series). The Civic Type R would have been on my short list- no question: Replies to this message: creakid1 (Apr 04, 2008 4:26 pm)
#1349 of 1379 Re: Mazda3's bro (C-1 Focus) vs Civic's bro (hatch w/ Fit-like beam suspension) [roadburner] by creakid1 Apr 04, 2008 (4:26 pm)
Replying to: roadburner (Mar 09, 2008 5:05 pm) This Europe-only Civic hatch is indeed handsome & cool looking! Just like the original Scirocco/Corrado. But like those old VW's, it's tiny & only got torsion-beam rear suspension. While today's Scirocco is heading into the direction of Civic by having multilink rear suspension & (try to?) look like the '92-95 Civic hatch, which even has multilink in the front as well! http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_website/gallery.php?id=247452 http://www.hondashowoff.com/profile.php?id=5211 click the 4th picture But by today's standard around here, the Focus, Mazda3, Rabbit/GTI, Civic, Impreza, & even top-end Corolla all have multilink rear, just like Mini & BMW. More likely, this Euro hatch Civic belongs to the little B-class cars w/ torsion-beam rear: Ford Verve/Fiesta http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/219219/ford_fiesta.html Mazda2 http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-content/plugins/iimage-gallery.php?idpost=6409&id- g=2&idi=12
#1350 of 1379 More Euro stuff: lowered widened "GTI" & widened Mazdaspeed3' bro by creakid1 Jun 19, 2008 (9:24 pm)
w/ more cylinder & 280hp: C-1 platform http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_website/gallery.php?id=267372 http://newsletter.autoexpress.co.uk/c/1fWJ5DRlILT5QaEg "Striking details include flared wheelarches, giving the RS a wider track for better high-speed stability." VW http://newsletter.autoexpress.co.uk/c/1fWJizq9PQGWc4EF "But the best news is that the new suspension settings and redesigned back axle, plus the chassis’s lower centre of gravity, all help make the Scirocco even better to drive than the Golf GTI. The wider track gives it greater grip and cornering composure, and although there is some body roll, it’s well contained. Overall, the Scirocco feels more agile and responsive than the GTI, while retaining that car’s sense of enthusiasm. There’s even the option of different driving modes. The Adaptive Chassis Control set-up allows you to select Comfort, Normal or Sport settings, which adjust not only the stiffness of the dampers, but also the steering weight and" Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Jun 21, 2008 9:10 am)
#1351 of 1379 Re: More Euro stuff: lowered widened "GTI" & widened Mazdaspeed3' bro [crea by aviboy97 Jun 21, 2008 (9:10 am)
Replying to: creakid1 (Jun 19, 2008 9:24 pm) Not really the right thread for this comparo??
#1352 of 1379 Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [carfanatic007] by 08speed3 Aug 07, 2009 (7:37 am)
Replying to: carfanatic007 (Apr 01, 2007 1:33 pm) LOL I live in Columbus and I'll race you, 08' speed 3 and yeah you can bring an SI to boot. I dont get what you all are talking about, the VW and SI are both slow as well as the speed, and if you spend enough money we all know that you can make a turd fly but if you really want to fast car try a V-8 that puts down 500+ hp, and have an SI, VW, or MSP3 as a daily car... Oh Civics Suck, and look like crap.... Replies to this message: roadburner (Aug 07, 2009 8:56 pm) aviboy97 (Aug 14, 2009 7:00 am) cz75 (Sep 10, 2009 10:19 pm) goose (Sep 11, 2009 2:49 pm) puffin1 (Sep 25, 2009 7:01 am) and 1 more... aviboy97 (Sep 12, 2009 7:49 am) cz75 (Sep 22, 2009 9:52 pm)
#1353 of 1379 Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [08speed3] by roadburner Aug 07, 2009 (8:56 pm)
Replying to: 08speed3 (Aug 07, 2009 7:37 am) You must be a regular from Mazda247... Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Aug 14, 2009 7:00 am)
#1354 of 1379 Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [roadburner] by aviboy97 Aug 14, 2009 (7:00 am)
Replying to: roadburner (Aug 07, 2009 8:56 pm) You must be a regular from Mazda247... LOL!!!!! Typical childish stuff you commonly see there. Edmunds is not the place for that type of talk.
#1355 of 1379 Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [08speed3] by cz75 Sep 10, 2009 (10:19 pm)
Replying to: 08speed3 (Aug 07, 2009 7:37 am) Can't look any worse than the new MS3 and the stupid grin Mazda gave it. Have you motor mounts broken yet? Replies to this message: goose (Sep 11, 2009 2:49 pm) puffin1 (Sep 25, 2009 7:01 am) eldaino2 (Sep 25, 2009 10:15 am) aviboy97 (Sep 12, 2009 7:49 am) cz75 (Sep 22, 2009 9:52 pm)
#1356 of 1379 Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [cz75] by goose Sep 11, 2009 (2:49 pm)
Replying to: cz75 (Sep 10, 2009 10:19 pm) Well I have a 2008 Civic EX and driven the 2010 Mazda 3 5 door GT. I know the Si is more "fun" than my Civic however primary difference is engine and tighter suspension. The rest is the same as my Civic such as interior design, materials, noise level and reliability. I have also driven the 2010 Accord Coupe, 2009 Lexus IS 250, Hyundai Genesis Coupe V6, Acura TSX and TL. All within the last 6 months. The 2010 Mazda 3 is a definite upgrade from the Civic. However the Mazdaspeed 3 is the direct competitor against the Si. If you want kid like driving dynamics then the Honda product is fine. If you're looking for an upgrade but still want to stay under $27K and get good MPG then the Mazda 3 is a better vehicle. The whole package is more mature such as interior layout, instrumentation design, stereo option, exterior lighting and improved sound dampening. It has options that the Civic doesn't even offer. No i don't want the local youth training center (stereo shop) modifying my car either. The only issue is getting past that Mazda 3 grin. But I wont buy anther Civic. I'm over it. If its not the grinning car then I'll pay more and get a Accord Coupe or take my chances with a 2010 VW GTI. Replies to this message: puffin1 (Sep 25, 2009 7:01 am) eldaino2 (Sep 25, 2009 10:15 am)
#1357 of 1379 Re: Honda Civic Si feels like the best quality of all three [cz75] by aviboy97 Sep 12, 2009 (7:49 am)
Replying to: cz75 (Sep 10, 2009 10:19 pm) Have you motor mounts broken yet? Common...a select few early 2007's were effected Should I bring up the early transmission problems and quality control issues with the SI? Or is that all of a sudden unfair because it speaks badly about Honda? Replies to this message: cz75 (Sep 22, 2009 9:52 pm)

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