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Hatchbacks Mazda3 Mazdaspeed3 vs. VW V GTI vs. Civic Si
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vs Rogue's twin (Quashqai) vs Peugeot's own 308 The C-1 Focus matched the Civic for best handling but provides better ride! & it's the only one in this group not being criticized for lack of steering feel! C-1 Focus: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/218058/ford_focus.html "Out on the road, the Ford feels the most relaxing to drive, thanks to the engine’s fuss-free nature – it just seems to get on with the job of transporting you from A to B as easily as possible. Yet there’s much more to the car than this. The model has always been renowned for its driving dynamics, and the new version is no exception. This all-round ability is what makes the Focus such a great family choice. The blend of ride and handling is a prime example. It’s not quite as firm as the Honda and deals better with potholes, but it’s just as focused and balanced through corners. Perfectly weighted steering and a crisp gearshift add to the package." Civic hatch: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/218067/honda_civic.html "In terms of handling, there’s little to choose between the Honda and Ford. Both are incredibly composed and enjoyable, whether eating up motorway miles or tackling country lanes." "Verdict:... -: some drivers find the speedometer is obscured by the wheel; steering is a little short on feedback." Quashqai: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/218064/nissan_qashqai.html "There are few criticisms of the car’s handling. The steering lacks feel, yet it’s fluid and direct, allowing for precise turn-in. Body control is taut – impressively so, given the Nissan’s tall ride height. As a result, the Qashqai is agile and reassuring." 308: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/218061/peugeot_308.html "As with its opponents, the 308 provides a decent balance of ride and handling. But it doesn’t quite grip as well as the Focus or Civic, and although the steering is meaty, it lacks feedback. The Peugeot is composed through corners, yet the dampers can be a little jittery over rough surfaces, and it’s not as engaging to drive as its rivals. It is smooth and refined – a reading of 69dB at 70mph is much quieter than the Focus’s 72dB – but the 308 doesn’t have much character or charm." At similar price, Civic's more equipment, room & mpg edges the C-1 Focus as the winner in this ECONOMY car test here. I'm sure all the cheapskates will agree.  http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/218052/ford_focus_v_rivals.ht- - - ml
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Replying to: creakid1 (Mar 09, 2008 4:10 pm) 
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Replying to: roadburner (Mar 09, 2008 5:05 pm) While today's Scirocco is heading into the direction of Civic by having multilink rear suspension & (try to?) look like the '92-95 Civic hatch, which even has multilink in the front as well! http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_website/gallery.php?id=247452 http://www.hondashowoff.com/profile.php?id=5211 click the 4th picture But by today's standard around here, the Focus, Mazda3, Rabbit/GTI, Civic, Impreza, & even top-end Corolla all have multilink rear, just like Mini & BMW. More likely, this Euro hatch Civic belongs to the little B-class cars w/ torsion-beam rear: Ford Verve/Fiesta http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/219219/ford_fiesta.html Mazda2 http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-content/plugins/iimage-gallery.php?idpost=6409&id- g=2&idi=12 |
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w/ more cylinder & 280hp: C-1 platform http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/front_website/gallery.php?id=267372 http://newsletter.autoexpress.co.uk/c/1fWJ5DRlILT5QaEg "Striking details include flared wheelarches, giving the RS a wider track for better high-speed stability." VW http://newsletter.autoexpress.co.uk/c/1fWJizq9PQGWc4EF "But the best news is that the new suspension settings and redesigned back axle, plus the chassis’s lower centre of gravity, all help make the Scirocco even better to drive than the Golf GTI. The wider track gives it greater grip and cornering composure, and although there is some body roll, it’s well contained. Overall, the Scirocco feels more agile and responsive than the GTI, while retaining that car’s sense of enthusiasm. There’s even the option of different driving modes. The Adaptive Chassis Control set-up allows you to select Comfort, Normal or Sport settings, which adjust not only the stiffness of the dampers, but also the steering weight and"
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Replying to: creakid1 (Jun 19, 2008 9:24 pm) |
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Replying to: carfanatic007 (Apr 01, 2007 1:33 pm) Oh Civics Suck, and look like crap.... |
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Replying to: 08speed3 (Aug 07, 2009 7:37 am)
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Replying to: roadburner (Aug 07, 2009 8:56 pm) LOL!!!!! Typical childish stuff you commonly see there. Edmunds is not the place for that type of talk. |
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Replying to: 08speed3 (Aug 07, 2009 7:37 am) Have you motor mounts broken yet? |
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Replying to: cz75 (Sep 10, 2009 10:19 pm)
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