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#1330 of 1379 Re: The Civic [creakid1] by blueguydotcom

Oct 05, 2007 (8:56 am)

Replying to: creakid1 (Oct 05, 2007 8:55 am)
Perhaps. But in reality it's economy-car garbage - especially that felt like stuff on the doors.

#1331 of 1379 Re: The Civic [blueguydotcom] by eldaino

Oct 09, 2007 (8:59 am)

Replying to: blueguydotcom (Oct 05, 2007 8:56 am)
it's economy-car garbage
 
man blueguy, sometimes i've wondered if you have ever peeped inside of any other car that the civic competes with.
 
Most would agree it has a high quality interior. You may not 'personally' like it, but to call it garbage is a bit harsh, and totally contradictory to the long history of quality interiors that the civic has had.

#1332 of 1379 Re: The Civic [eldaino] by blueguydotcom

Oct 09, 2007 (10:09 am)

Replying to: eldaino (Oct 09, 2007 8:59 am)
The interior is not at the level of past Civics. The civics of the 80s and 90s had better quality interiors by far. And yes, I've been subjected to cars like the Nitro and Cobalt. They're trash too. Saying the current Civic has a nice interior because the others are awful is like gloating one is top of his class at remedial summer school.

#1333 of 1379 Re: The Civic [blueguydotcom] by thegraduate

Oct 09, 2007 (12:17 pm)

Replying to: blueguydotcom (Oct 09, 2007 10:09 am)
The interior is not at the level of past Civics.
 
Oh, definitely not. I wish we could go back from electronic controls for the ventilation, etc.. to the levers which often get very stiff to adjust (as in my grandparents' 1997 Civic LX) where you could see the metal pieces attached to the mechanical parts back in the control unit of the A/C controls, don't you? Or maybe we can use the much smaller, more thinly padded although-not-comfortably-firm seats from those cars too!
 
I personally haven't found a fit/finish/tactile quality problem in the new Civic. Just a differing opinion.

#1334 of 1379 Re: The Civic [thegraduate] by creakid1

Oct 09, 2007 (8:19 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 09, 2007 12:17 pm)
I hate newer car's electronic controls for the ventilation. The '90-93 Accord had separate clicking buttons for "fresh air" & "recirculate" so I can feel them by hand & never had to keep my eyes off the road for one nano second.
 
But my '00 Civc hatch has one soft touch (i.e., doesn't click), for A/C or recirculate, that had to be visually checked for on & off, & can't even be read under direct sun light, especially the indicator lights got dimmer as the car aged! Ditto my Focus ST, & even worse, the number of buttons found on (the premium Focus-II) Volvo S40/V50's fancy-looking "TV remote-like" super-thin center stack.

#1335 of 1379 Re: The Civic [creakid1] by thegraduate

Oct 09, 2007 (8:35 pm)

Replying to: creakid1 (Oct 09, 2007 8:19 pm)
I hate newer car's electronic controls for the ventilation. The '90-93 Accord had separate clicking buttons for "fresh air" & "recirculate" so I can feel them by hand & never had to keep my eyes of the road for one nano second.
  
I was actually talking about the Civic of the 80s and early 90s (which is what the previous person had referenced) which had levers. You gotta check those visually too.
 
BTW, I have a 1996 Accord which has similar controls to the 90-93 models. The mechanical knob in that car binds easily and breaks the knob (I'm on number 4). I prefer the electronic knobs better.

#1336 of 1379 After all, my made-in-Japan Mazda is still the most reliable by creakid1

Oct 09, 2007 (11:32 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 09, 2007 8:35 pm)
Before I bought my 1st-year-production '90 Protege LX, Mazda was well known for "easily-worned-down interior trims". But I took the gamble & found the whole car lasting longer than even the made-in-Japan Toyota's.
 
I click the "AC" button million times a day (off for accelerating & uphills, on for engine-braking & down hills). & that big button may be worned out on the outside marking, it's still working perfectly today at about 200k mi. My recirculate lever, which has also been flipped back & forth many times a day, never turned stiff.
 
I wonder if your '96 Accord is not made in Japan. My '98 made-in-California Corolla LE had a low-quality-plastic vent outlet that cracked, so I had to hurried back into this country before the warranty expired. Guess what? I didn't make it in time b/c my plane crashed due to a hurricane/typhoon

#1337 of 1379 Re: After all, my made-in-Japan Mazda is still the most reliable [creakid1] by aviboy97

Oct 10, 2007 (7:10 am)

Replying to: creakid1 (Oct 09, 2007 11:32 pm)
wonder if your '96 Accord is not made in Japan. My '98 made-in-California Corolla LE had a low-quality-plastic vent outlet that cracked, so I had to hurried back into this country before the warranty expired.
 
Japanese cars from the 80's and 90's had pretty low rent plastic controls, regardless if they were made in Japan or not. That was a big knock on them. My HVAC controls broke on my '91 Toyota Celica, '91 Honda Accord, and '98 Mitsu Eclipse.
 
The Corolla's from that time period too were not much on the inside, or out. Actually, neither was anything in that class that came from Japan.

#1338 of 1379 Re: The Civic [blueguydotcom] by eldaino

Oct 10, 2007 (9:01 am)

Replying to: blueguydotcom (Oct 09, 2007 10:09 am)
the remedial summer school bit made me laugh!
 
but in all honesty blueguy, i do think you are being a bit harsh. does it have something to do with being a bmw/mini owner? maybe. even i got nitpicky with our fit after moving down from the rabbit.
 
its funny to note that even the 3 series has those same scratch prone doors like the new civic.
 
But all in all, the civic has a very nice interior, and i'm with grad on the electronic knobs point. Much nicer by far!

#1339 of 1379 To each his own by blueguydotcom

Oct 10, 2007 (6:03 pm)

That's what it comes down to. Shrug.

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