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1379 messages, Last post on Oct 01, 2009 at 10:54 AM
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http://newsletter.autoexpress.co.uk/c/14s2ea5Bnoeq5 Energy-wasting AWD combines w/ lack of steering feel. At least it's got good ride comfort: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/210611/subaru_impreza.html The new Euro-built Saturn -- lack of multi-link rear suspension means a comfy ride is not even remotely possible if the handling has to remain decent, steering-feel sucks, too: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/210614/vauxhall_astra.html With the Focus-II platform, the Mazda has the highest "driving experience" rating here, but its ride is not tuned comfortably the way Focus' are: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/grouptests/210612/mazda_3.html |
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| I don't put any stock in magazine reviews. They say the Si has a good interior - it doesn't to my eyes. I'll visit a Scooby dealer soon to take a peak at the WRX. If it's up to par with my old 2003 Protege ES, then it's more than adequate to be a daily car. | |
still has the best-looking interior, at least from the brochure 
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Replying to: creakid1 (Oct 05, 2007 7:55 am)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Oct 05, 2007 7:56 am) man blueguy, sometimes i've wondered if you have ever peeped inside of any other car that the civic competes with. Most would agree it has a high quality interior. You may not 'personally' like it, but to call it garbage is a bit harsh, and totally contradictory to the long history of quality interiors that the civic has had.
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Replying to: eldaino (Oct 09, 2007 7:59 am)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Oct 09, 2007 9:09 am) Oh, definitely not. I wish we could go back from electronic controls for the ventilation, etc.. to the levers which often get very stiff to adjust (as in my grandparents' 1997 Civic LX) where you could see the metal pieces attached to the mechanical parts back in the control unit of the A/C controls, don't you? Or maybe we can use the much smaller, more thinly padded although-not-comfortably-firm seats from those cars too!  I personally haven't found a fit/finish/tactile quality problem in the new Civic. Just a differing opinion. 
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 09, 2007 11:17 am) But my '00 Civc hatch has one soft touch (i.e., doesn't click), for A/C or recirculate, that had to be visually checked for on & off, & can't even be read under direct sun light, especially the indicator lights got dimmer as the car aged! Ditto my Focus ST, & even worse, the number of buttons found on (the premium Focus-II) Volvo S40/V50's fancy-looking "TV remote-like" super-thin center stack.
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Replying to: creakid1 (Oct 09, 2007 7:19 pm) I was actually talking about the Civic of the 80s and early 90s (which is what the previous person had referenced) which had levers. You gotta check those visually too. BTW, I have a 1996 Accord which has similar controls to the 90-93 models. The mechanical knob in that car binds easily and breaks the knob (I'm on number 4). I prefer the electronic knobs better.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 09, 2007 7:35 pm) I click the "AC" button million times a day (off for accelerating & uphills, on for engine-braking & down hills). & that big button may be worned out on the outside marking, it's still working perfectly today at about 200k mi. My recirculate lever, which has also been flipped back & forth many times a day, never turned stiff. I wonder if your '96 Accord is not made in Japan. My '98 made-in-California Corolla LE had a low-quality-plastic vent outlet that cracked, so I had to hurried back into this country before the warranty expired. Guess what? I didn't make it in time b/c my plane crashed due to a hurricane/typhoon 
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