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Re: re [andres3] by thegraduate
Aug 13, 2007 (3:20 pm)
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Replying to: andres3 (Aug 13, 2007 9:20 am)

While it might be true all car brands have lemons..... it is also certainly true that Dodge may make as many as 1,000 lemons for every single (1) lemon Honda makes, for example.
 
As a Honda owner who has watched his dad burned by Chrysler twice, I still have to say that making a comment like that sure seems inflammatory, like you are looking for a fight.
 
You won't find it from me, since I dont completely disagree, but c'mon, 1000 lemons from Dodge for every 1 Honda lemon? That's just major exaggeration.
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Consumer Reports said by creakid1
Aug 14, 2007 (12:28 am)
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statistically 7-yr old Japanese cars have as many problems as 4-yr old American cars. Take your pick.
 
If you lease a made-in-Germany Rabbit for 3 yrs, then you might only have to deal w/ around one unscheduled break down, which isn't too bad consider how this little bunny pampers you every single day w/ 1st-class ride comfort & decent quietness all wrapped in an easy-to-park exterior dimension that'll find you parking spaces easily. I don't recall the bulky '95-99 Toyota Avalon w/ low-tech suspension riding this comfortably!
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Re: Consumer Reports said [creakid1] by aviboy97
Aug 14, 2007 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: creakid1 (Aug 14, 2007 12:28 am)

don't recall the bulky '95-99 Toyota Avalon w/ low-tech suspension riding this comfortably!
 
Or any 95-99 VW for that matter
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Re: re [thegraduate] by andres3
Aug 14, 2007 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 13, 2007 3:20 pm)

Okay... maybe it was exaggeration... but major exaggeration.... I wouldn't be too sure.
 
I'd be willing to bet the actual ratio is close to 100:1 for Chrysler branded (jeep/dodge/plymouth) lemons vs. Honda lemons.
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Re: re [andres3] by aviboy97
Aug 14, 2007 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Aug 14, 2007 7:56 am)

100:1 for Chrysler branded (jeep/dodge/plymouth) lemons vs. Honda lemons.
 
I still think that may be an exaggeration. Keep in mind, lemons are only considered, or reported as lemons, if the mfg buys it back from the customer. Mfg's do all they can to avoid that. Just because YOU think the vehicle is a lemon, does not constitute it a lemon, but, rather a piece of Sugar Honey Iced Tea
 
A more correct statement may sound something like this: "The ratio of Chrysler brand vehicles to experience problems compared to Honda is likely to be 100:1" And that STILL may be an exaggeration!
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May? by forbesj
Aug 14, 2007 (9:22 am)
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I bet it's more like 5:1 or something like that.
 
And I'm no Chrysler fan.
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Me? by eldaino
Aug 14, 2007 (10:15 am)
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I don't really like lemons to begin with.
 
 
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Re: Consumer Reports said [aviboy97] by creakid1
Aug 14, 2007 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 14, 2007 7:14 am)

"Or any 95-99 VW for that matter"
 
Wrong! The '98 Passat & '99 Jetta all rode so comfortably not even the '07 Accord can match. Consumer Reports also feels that the current MkV Jetta/Rabbit rides no more comfortably than the old '99 MkIV Jetta/Golf.
 
B/c when I test drove the '99 Jetta, I noticed it's MSRP is lower than the less-comfy-riding '99 Avalon.
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Re: Me? [eldaino] by thegraduate
Aug 14, 2007 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Aug 14, 2007 10:15 am)

Me neither, and I live in the sweet tea capital of the country!
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Re: Consumer Reports said [creakid1] by aviboy97
Aug 14, 2007 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: creakid1 (Aug 14, 2007 11:25 am)

The '98 Passat & '99 Jetta all rode so comfortably not even the '07 Accord can match.
 
Wrong! First off, ride quality is subjective, and the 99 Jetta never rode anywhere near the comfort that I have when I am in my fathers 03 Accord.
 
Consumer Reports also feels that the current MkV Jetta/Rabbit rides no more comfortably than the old '99 MkIV Jetta/Golf.
 
Well, it better! It's a new design!! The MkIV ride was not all that great!
 
B/c when I test drove the '99 Jetta, I noticed it's MSRP is lower than the less-comfy-riding '99 Avalon.
 
Two totally different vehicles. The Jetta is a compact/mid sized vehicle, and the Avalon is a full sized sedan. If the Jetta was more expensive, it would have been a total rip off. The Jetta better compares to the Corolla, rather then the Avalon.

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