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Mazdaspeed3 vs. VW V GTI vs. Civic Si

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Re: Is this VW engine in our near future? [eldaino] by davert
Aug 08, 2007 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 27, 2007 10:08 am)

Volkswagen GTI cornering seems just fine. Rabbit will probably be very similar though less busy since the wheels/tires will be more pragmatically sized. With the horsepower of the regular Rabbit comes extra weight - I wonder how much faster it is compared to the original? ... my own GTI impressions are in this Volkswagen GTI car review.
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Re: Is this VW engine in our near future? [davert] by eldaino
Aug 08, 2007 (10:27 am)
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Replying to: davert (Aug 08, 2007 10:02 am)

i belive the corninering is fine too, and there is a quite a bit of grip...but the body roll is nothing to write home about, as both the si and mazdaspeed 3 control it better. maybe only the new wrx is worse.
 
dunno how much quicker than the original the new bunny is, but its quite a bit quicker than the model it replaces...with the same fuel economy.
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The Rabbit rides like a limo by creakid1
Aug 08, 2007 (11:25 am)
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while all these Mazdaspeed3/VW V GTI/Civic Si are penalty boxes over bumpy roads.
 
The Rabbit is luxurious, as its optional ipod includes a front center armrest w/ rear-seat A/C vents behind it, same as the GTI.
 
Anyway, after my test drives, I've decided to own the 2.3 Focus ST. It handles way sharper, & especially its feel-ful steering makes it much more fun than the Rabbit, while still rides less nervously than even the non-turbo 2.3 Mazda 3S.
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VW Golf GTI 30th Edition by charlietorques
Aug 09, 2007 (3:52 am)
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I've just had the pleasure of test driving the new 30th Edition GTI on a race track and boy it was good fun (extra 35bhp or so over Mk V GTI, 18 inch black alloy wheels, leather race seats, polished drilled steel pedals, etc). It didn't seem to want to let go on the corners no matter how hard it was pushed! I haven't tested any of the competitors cars mentioned here such as the MazdaSpeed3 or Honda Civic Si, but was wondering if anybody here has tested the 30th Edition GTI against these other cars and how they compared?
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Re: VW Golf GTI 30th Edition [charlietorques] by creakid1
Aug 09, 2007 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: charlietorques (Aug 09, 2007 3:52 am)

OK, you guys all want hardcore versions to compete w/ the hard-riding Mazdaspeed3.
 
Now it's Civic's turn:
 
http://honda.bfi0.com/W7RH02BFC330732251441313DE05E0
 
& priced to match.
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Re: VW Golf GTI 30th Edition [charlietorques] by eldaino
Aug 09, 2007 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: charlietorques (Aug 09, 2007 3:52 am)

are you in europe? because we have no edition 30 gti here!
 
the extra hp torque would be nice though!
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Re: The Rabbit rides like a limo [creakid1] by eldaino
Aug 09, 2007 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: creakid1 (Aug 08, 2007 11:25 am)

i dunno about penalty boxes...i know they are stiffer than the rabbit (especially the si and mazdaspeed) but i would hardly call the gti a pentalty box, as its the most softly sprung out of all of them minus the regular versions of each respective car.
 
the bunny is pretty darn luxurious though.
 
creakid...i'm suprised you say that the focus st rides less 'nervously' over roads than the 3...i test drove one the other day and it was good fun, and sportier than my rabbit.
 
is the st the c-1 chassis? i was always under the impression that the c-1 chassis can only be found under the euro focus...
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Re: VW Golf GTI 30th Edition [creakid1] by eldaino
Aug 09, 2007 (6:47 am)
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Replying to: creakid1 (Aug 09, 2007 6:07 am)

creakid, i would hardly call this the 'hardcore' version.
 
a free-er flowing exhaust and slighlty stiffer suspension...this is just a limited edition for some jdm fanboys.
 
the civic that would fit your description was reviewed recently on insideline: the jdm civic type r sedan :222 hp, 8500 redline, 18 lightweight wheels, and incredibly well handling suspension that actually allows this civic to lap FASTER than a stock s2k, and brembro brakes.
 
that is a hardcore civic.
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Re: VW Golf GTI 30th Edition [creakid1] by roadburner
Aug 09, 2007 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: creakid1 (Aug 09, 2007 6:07 am)

It's a nice appearance package, but IMO it's not worth 29K.
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Re: VW Golf GTI 30th Edition [eldaino] by roadburner
Aug 09, 2007 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Aug 09, 2007 6:47 am)

this is just a limited edition for some jdm fanboys.
 
You nailed it. All show, with very little-if at all-extra go.

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