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Mazdaspeed3 vs. VW V GTI vs. Civic Si

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What is this discussion about? Mazda MAZDA3, Volkswagen GTI, Honda Civic, Car Comparisons, Coupe, Hatchback, Sedan


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Re: VW GTI FARENHEIT [blueguydotcom] by eldaino
Jun 21, 2007 (6:03 am)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Jun 20, 2007 1:10 pm)

well, its actually more than just a paint job.
 
farenheits aren't really all that much more expensive than some decked to the gills gti's and gli's: they include all the goodies standard, plus its a limited edition much like the r32, with a serial number and everything. Factor in the unique color, wheels, and interior trim and that tops off the price.
 
For some people its awesome, like most special editions are, and for others who aren't dubbers, its no biggie, or 'stupid'. But all the ones i've seen have been snatched up.
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Re: Auto Bild Quality Report [vviley] by eldaino
Jun 21, 2007 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: vviley (Jun 20, 2007 7:02 am)

thanks man!
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Re: VW GTI FARENHEIT [andres3] by eldaino
Jun 21, 2007 (6:09 am)
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Replying to: andres3 (Jun 20, 2007 11:21 am)

because its a decked to the gills special edition with exclusive everything.
 
the launch control thing is a bit misleading though, current 'regular' gti's have it as well, its even in the brochures you can get at the dealer that come with the dvd.
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Re: Auto Bild Quality Report [fasterthanyou] by creakid1
Jun 21, 2007 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: fasterthanyou (Jun 18, 2007 5:26 pm)

"In 2004 again the Mazda 6 was rated poorly for reliability in Consumer Reports while Europe raved about the outstanding reliability..."
 
Just to clear the confusion. The Euro-spec are made in Japan & no clumsy nose-heavy 6 cylinder. The most & least reliable cars do not have much problems when new. Statistics show that 7-yr old Japanese cars got as much repair problems as 4-yr old American cars.
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Re: All most purchased the GTI. [blueguydotcom] by aviboy97
Jun 21, 2007 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Jun 11, 2007 1:16 pm)

me neither
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Re: Auto Bild Quality Report [aviboy97] by creakid1
Jun 21, 2007 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jun 20, 2007 7:57 am)

"You cannot "fishtail" in a FWD car. There is no power to the rear to push the rear out!"
 
I guess you just don't know about Mazda's.
 
I can fish tail my TTL-suspension FWD '90 Protege w/ factory LX sport package at low speeds, & even spin out if you want to see it! It's a dangerous car in wet. Am I the "drift king" around here?
 
But newer Mazda's w/ multi-link rear suspension is suppose to fish tail more predictably than the TTL (Twin Trapezoid Link).
 
There no such thing as a nimble-handling 6-cyl FWD car. Even the 5-cyl MkII Focus ST loses out to the 4-cyl MkV GTI in all Brit's comparison tests, while the 4-cyl MkII Focus beats the 4-cyl MkV Golf! In case you wonder why the Mazdaspeed3 ditched that 5-cyl turbo engine from its twin brothers -- the Volvo S40/V50 & the MkII Focus ST.
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Re: VW GTI FARENHEIT [eldaino] by blueguydotcom
Jun 21, 2007 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 21, 2007 6:03 am)

plus its a limited edition much like the r32, with a serial number and everything. Factor in the unique color, wheels, and interior trim and that tops off the price.
 
A serial number?! Oh my god, it's got a number on it, so it's different from the other 250k GTIs VW will produce in 2007.
 
Sorry but honestly, the car's got rims and a paintjob. Some interior trim and a numbered plaque hardly make it worth more than a regular GTI in my eyes.
  
For some people its awesome, like most special editions are, and for others who aren't dubbers, its no biggie, or 'stupid'. But all the ones i've seen have been snatched up.
 
My dad's a car collector and special editions that are really special can be worth quite a bit. Special editions of VWs though...it's a VW economy car with orange paint.
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Re: Auto Bild Quality Report [creakid1] by blueguydotcom
Jun 21, 2007 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: creakid1 (Jun 21, 2007 7:55 am)

Agreed, you can rotate a FWD car if the suspension is set up right. My 03 Pro ES was great for getting the car sideways on fun roads.
 
I know the current GTI feels like it would come around if it had a tighter suspension. A solid rear sway might be enough...
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Re: VW GTI FARENHEIT [blueguydotcom] by eldaino
Jun 21, 2007 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: blueguydotcom (Jun 21, 2007 8:09 am)

A serial number?! Oh my god, it's got a number on it, so it's different from the other 250k GTIs VW will produce in 2007.
 
yeah it is actually, it has exclusive interior trim, an awesome soundsystem, and just a few extra things that make it unique; considering all the options it has on it, it really isn't that much more than comparably equipped gti's without all those little things that make it different, such as the paint, trim, and rims.
 
and economy car? blue guy you were really gung ho about the gti before you got the cooper, what happened? you don't have to hate on it now! if i remember correctly, you called the si out on its so called 'economy' interior and used the gti as the posterchild for NOT being like this, or taking the same approach when it came to the performance version. Why the sudden and very weird change?
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Re: VW GTI FARENHEIT [eldaino] by andres3
Jun 21, 2007 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 21, 2007 10:59 am)

Well, what is THE EXACT difference in cost.... and what is the EXACT list of added/upgraded equipment.
 
Someone do this!

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