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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 18, 2007 5:55 am)
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German's cars are amazing. However, according to the german's leading journal, Auto Bild, list of the most reliable cars for the year 2006 is as follows: 1. Mazda 2. Toyota 3. Honda 4. Hyundai 5. Nissan 6. Chevrolet (Daewoo in fact) 7. Volvo 8. Suzuki 9. Mitsubishi 10. Opel (GM branch in Europe) 11. Audi BMW Smart 14. Skoda 15. Mercedes 16. Ford Seat VW 19. Kia 20. Alfa Romeo 21. Citroen 22. Renault 23. Fiat 24. Peugeot Mazda is ranked first for the 2007. See for criteria: http://www.duemotori.com/news/auto_news/13868_A_Hat_Trick_for_Mazda_on_Auto_Bilds_Quality_Report.php
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 18, 2007 5:55 am) why? BECAUSE IT HAS NONE? " That tells me that all you know about the SI is from what you read in the auto publications. Please take a test drive then we talk. its funny that you mention honda being acura quality in europe Honda is not Acura quality in Europe.... Honda is Acura. What America gets as a suposed premium brand are regular Hondas badged with a name invented for the American market...Acura. Real Hondas(American Acuras) are not bad cars. My criticism goes toward the vechicles sold under Honda badge in America that are absolute garbage. While I think that Acura(real Honda) can be a real competitor for VW the vechicles wearing the Honda badge in America are certainly not comparable. VW = Acura(European regular Honda) in quality. VW > American fake Honda
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 18, 2007 5:55 am) Mine has finally started aching since my wreck in my '96 last week. I guess that makes two of us (although yours sounds much worse!)
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Replying to: sbukvic (Jun 18, 2007 4:33 pm) I believe that Mazda and VW are the most underrated brands of cars in America and I hope car buyers will make wiser choices in the future. Don't keep buying junk badged as Honda that is built worse than a Suzuki.
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Replying to: fasterthanyou (Jun 18, 2007 5:26 pm) I'm still looking for the new information or insight you brought that made that worth posting. Instead, it looks very personally directed.
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But let's try not to make this a personal thing please. It's OK to disagree about the vehicles, but putting a personal edge on things is not going to convince anyone to suddenly see things from your point of view. Let's agree to disagree and move on please. |
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Replying to: fasterthanyou (Jun 18, 2007 5:26 pm) And it had some of the worst gearing, acceleration, and handling I'd ever seen in a car. I even fishtailed the car pulling out of the rental agencies parking lot... at idling speed, for pete's sake! I made sure to check the tread of the tires and they were not worn. Not to mention that the suspension was much softer than I'd have liked, almost Toyota or Hyundai-like in it's softness. Or the fact that I had to park the manumatic transmission in manual mode just to get the engine to rev over the 2500 rpm mark. I'll admit, with the transmission in manual mode, the car could accelerate (in a straight line) very quickly. Mind you, if the transmission was in the pure automatic mode, I'd have accelerated like an asmatic turtle... No, a Honda Fit would have been more fun. (or a GTI, Civic SI, Mazdaspeed3, WRX STi, or an Evo for that matter  )
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Replying to: gogogodzilla (Jun 19, 2007 6:17 am) ROFL. 1. When is fishtailing bad? Part of the problem with most FWD cars - you can't rotate the front easily. 2. I say impossible as the car's FWD and has a severe understeer bias. Not to mention that the suspension was much softer than I'd have liked, almost Toyota or Hyundai-like in it's softness. Drive an off-the-lot car as the Mazda6 for its segment is tops. No flaccid Honda Accord or Toyota Camry can compare. Not even close. Or the fact that I had to park the manumatic transmission in manual mode just to get the engine to rev over the 2500 rpm mark. Shrug, no such thing as a good automatic tranny (DSG is not an automatic). No, a Honda Fit would have been more fun. I've driven the fit. It isn't. Even with a manual the Fit is wheezy and you can barely break 75. At that point there's a racket. Regardless, the Fit a cute econo-car but it can't fairly be compared to a 6. Or 3. (or a GTI, Civic SI, Mazdaspeed3, WRX STi, or an Evo for that matter Talk about an odd grouping. The Sti and Evo are in a different league from all of these - rally econoboxes with 280+ HP and AWD. Unrealistic to compare them to any of these cars. The GTI is a top of the line Golf. Mazdaspeed3 is a high end 3 that's far more expensive than the 6 you drove. And a Civic Si is...well a sharp handling, torqueless, boy racer with lousy interior materials and no room inside.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 18, 2007 5:30 pm) Contrary to the opinion of fanboys (see definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanboy) like fasterthanyou or carfanatic, there's a reason people buy cars like the GTI, Mazdaspeed3, and Civic Si - these three cars are fantastic rides that represent the class of the hot hatch field. Each car brings its own strengths and weaknesses, but rest assured, if any of these cars were junk, people (especially tuners) wouldn't be as interested. I'm a 25-year Dubber, and I have nothing but admiration for all three of these cars.  The fanboys are a different story altogether... 
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