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Jeep Commander, SUV
#219 of 640 Yes... I care!
Nov 21, 2005 (5:47 pm)
Explorerx4, I noticed how tight the Jeep Commanders second and third row. My Mercedes ML500 is very roomy in the 2nd and 3rd row compared to the Commander.
I'm almost thinking of waiting for the 2007 Cadillac Escalade that will come out in March. The look of the interior is very nice looking and completely changed. This is a "slight" consideration. I figure if I'm looking at a vehicle with 14 city MPG... that the full size SUV is right there with the Jeep, Volvo and Land Rover.
#220 of 640 At last check.....
Nov 21, 2005 (6:47 pm)
most owners and auto journalist who tested the Explorer and ML found the 3rd row seat "insufficient" for adults, right along with the Commander.I've sat in all and no way was this 6'3 frame "comfortable" back there, especially the rock hard bench in the Explorer and the leather-look but vinyl-covered Merc. Only full size SUV's and most minivans can "comfortably" haul adults in the 3rd row.
I'll give credit where credit is due. The LR3 comes very close to duplicating the room of full size models, give or take a couple of inches. But the Dodge Durango bests ALL midsizers(wonder why they call the Durango "mid-size"?) and even some full-size, the Sequoia/Land Cruiser and Armada/QX 56. So if the sole purpose of buying any of these vehicles is for 3rd seat room, then yes I'd cross shop the full size models.
GM has promised that not only will the Escalade beat all domestic makes in interior fit/finish and quality, but Infiniti, Land Rover,Merc, and Toyota/Lexus will fall behind in build quality, powertrain, and interior materials. It all remains to be seen. The interior is of very good quality and the 400hp 6.2L V-8 with 6-speed automatic is sure to leave a print.
#221 of 640 Re: At last check..... [blkhemi]
Nov 21, 2005 (11:50 pm)
Justin, you are wrong about the ML... the third row is comfortable for a full size adult... I've had mine for almost four years and adults are just about the only people that have sat back there (accept my young nephews/nieces on occasion). The second row will slide forward for additional leg room for the third row. The ML has a foot well where the Commander does not. Of course, that doesn't mean beans since the new ML doesn't offer a third row anymore.
I rented a Dodge Durango this summer to take my nieces and nephews to Six Flags at St. Louis. I didn't need the third row and let me tell you, it's not for adults. My ML has a much better third seat offering. The DVD entertainment was nice in the Durango.. didn't expect that.
The Durango needs rear bumper sensor indicators badly.
#222 of 640 Anyone seen this commercial?
Nov 22, 2005 (4:50 am)
Has anyone seen the Jeep commercial offering 2 yrs. maintenance and gas plus a 100,000 mile warranty on the Commander? When I mentioned the $1500 cash off, the dealer acted like he didn't know about it - wanted to know where I got that info. I'll be purchasing soon and I want to have all my 'ducks in a row' before I buy. Everything in writing. The dealership here in Jacksonville,FL does not seen to be giving the same deals I have been reading about in this forum. Maybe I should wait another couple of weeks.
#224 of 640 Re: Anyone seen this commercial? [sbyrum]
Nov 22, 2005 (8:02 am)
That $1500 rebate is good until the end-of-the-year. That along with the scheduled maintanence and free gas for 2 years.
Moreover, I wouldn't buy any SUV-especially domestic, without a sizeable discount. This is the last of the year and I've heard of three different Commander buyer's in three different sections of the country(one down your- South FLA.) and they've gotten some serious deals. So shop around.
FYI, that rebate is posted on Jeeps website.
#225 of 640 Re: Anyone seen this commercial? [sbyrum]
Nov 22, 2005 (8:19 am)
The new Chrysler Freedom Plan. This may be offered in leiu of a deal but should be a great negotiating tool. Let us know how it goes...
#226 of 640 Re: At last check..... [mark156]
Nov 22, 2005 (8:23 am)
The Merc's 3rd seat has 37.7" of rear legroom(despite the foot well) and 38.4 inches of headroom.
The LR3's 3rd-seat has 39.6" of rear legroom and 40.2" of inches of headroom(despite the elevated roof)
The Durango's 3rd-seat has 41.6" of rear legroom and 40.7" of headroom.
So, no, I wasn't wrong or mistaken about the ML. The Durango Limited I looked at before I bought my Commander was exceptionally roomy. Didn't have a problem getting back there, no squeezing or grunting, or contortionist acts needed, unlike some of the others. I would've bought it but couldn't warm up to the looks.
This is what just one of the automotive mags said about the 2004 ML500 2nd and 3rd-row seats:
"Tall supportive cushion. Leg and foot room goes from good to tight as front seats slide rearward. OK access via low sills and adequately wide doors, Available 3rd-row seat strictly for tykes, and even they might feel squeezed getting into or out of its tight confines."
I happen to agree with them. Maybe yours was one of the few that are easy to access, but the ML500 my wife had in '02 was extremely tight back there, hence we had to get rid of it.
P.S.- Don't get your Undies in a bunch. The Commander's review was worst than that.
#227 of 640 Re: At last check..... [blkhemi]
Nov 22, 2005 (8:56 am)
Justin, I stand corrected (looking for a new pair of undies). I didn't get in the third row of the Durango but the seat looked tiny and was a "one piece" seat.
I'm surprised that you thought the ML seat was "extremely tight", it's not like a Yukon XL for sure, but considering the size of the ML, two adults do fine back there.
The tightness of the third row of the Commander does have me concerned because when I do need it, I want my passengers to be comfortable.
#228 of 640 Re: At last check..... [blkhemi]
Nov 22, 2005 (10:41 am)
If you're looking at 6-7 passenger SUV's don't forget to consider the Envoy XL types. The 3rd row seat will handle 2 - 6'1 adults. I would not want to ride 500 miles back there, but it is confortable enough for a couple of hours. We have the I6, 2WD...don't off-road. I would imagine the upper-end (was the SLT trim in 2004) model with V8 and 4wd would be competive with the Commander pricing. Personally I would spend $1200-$1500 and get extended factory warranty (5y/90-100K mile) on either of them.
Just my opinion .