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Coupes & Convertibles Sports Cars - The Definitive Discussion 
522 messages, Last post on Dec 08, 2007 at 6:07 PM
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Replying to: starrow68 (Dec 07, 2007 12:43 pm) I live in a nice neighborhood... at least 3 Porsches, many BMW's, many MB's and at least 2 Corvettes. Not a single track guy amongst us. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy my C2S . I went to the North Shore of Hawaii to go surfing a few years ago and while I was there the waves were at least 15 feet. Talking to one of the locals ( I didn't go out ) he commented( he didn't go out either ) " You have to know your limitations" . I never WANT to go 135mph... that ( again ) doesn't mean I don't enjoy my car. Some posters have stated Porsche has cheap plastic and archaic materials....come on, we all know Porsche is state of the art ..but some have to make that idiotic statement to feed the flame. My point is that critiquing my car, when it's a world class machine by anyones standards, does not elevate yours, the comments do nothing other than lower those who make the comments. Myself included. My questions were not retorical.. I got you to respond. I get so much enjoyment just driving my car down to the beach that I don't need the negitivism of thinking what I don't like about your car... so why are you guys so up tight about Porsche? Enyoy your cars... it's not worth the brain space. Lexus copies BMW and MB No car company is dumb enough to try to make their car look like a Porsche or a Corvette .Basically , knocking my car doesn't make your car better Chromedome
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The making of this conversation about each other needs to stop. The discussion is about Sports Cars. It is about all the cars listed at the top. It is okay that someone comes here to talk about any of those listed cars. It is not okay to make the conversation about other posters. Again, if you don't like what someone else is saying, just skip the post. There is this handy-dandy secret "ignore" feature we have here in CarSpace known as the "scroll wheel" - if you are tempted to attack the person who posted the message you just read, just scroll on by. |
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Replying to: chrmdome (Dec 07, 2007 2:08 pm) $120,000 Porsche GT3. Notice the vertical "grand canyon" panel gaps in and around the glovebox, and general cheapness all around:  Here's the $75,000 LeMans and ALMS-winning sportscar to which all other sportscars in the world are judged:  No grand canyons here, folks! No junky interior panels. Just pure business. |
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Replying to: pmc4 (Dec 07, 2007 6:21 pm) We are done buying into your insults. I really wish you the best. I hope you enjoy your car to the max. Good night. Oh, by the way, in the Corvette ..why is the parking brake handle on the passengers side...doesn't seem logical? It seems like you'd have to reach over the center counsel to reach it. Just wondering...Junky? What... Chromedome |
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Replying to: pmc4 (Dec 07, 2007 6:21 pm) No Offense but no race car has an interior anything like either of those two above pictures. Anyone who actually goes out and races or has built a racecar knows that there is very little that is kept true to a street machine once it's been converted over for race duty. I don't see any fire suppression on either car. I don't see any roll cages on either car. Heck I don't even see seats that would be legal in even the lowest level of club racing! They both have airbags, which are absolutely not allowed in racing.  So let's calm down with the "Racing" comments since we are talking about street cars here. -mike
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Replying to: pmc4 (Dec 07, 2007 6:21 pm) Without beating the dead horse too many times! Please do a little research and review the massive number on wins that Porsche has posted in the last 58 years, in all categories. Porsche has been on the forefront of bringing racing technology to their " street " machines since 1948. I remember Tiger Woods being slammed about his " B game " comment. He is an asonishing golf prodigy!.... but he has not beat Jack Nicklas' record of major wins yet.A simple broken finger could ruin his career. One win does not a legend make. Rather than using a picture to make a judgement of the interior quality of the 997 and 997S , because this is what we are talking about here..street machines ( the 997S being the most popular in the line )go down to your local Porsche dealer and take a look, preferably at one that offers a full leather interior. You will see the world class fit/ finish /material and build quality. I've seen the Corvette...More than one car mag writer has positioned the 997 as the worlds premier sports car, regardless of those who make unjustified and biased comments . Elevation to world class stature takes more than a critique of your opponent, to be a true winner you have to have class. More " Evolution than Revolution" is what embodies Porsche The Corvette and the Porsche 997 are 2 vastly different cars, from the Porsche being a true 2+2, to it's unibody contruction , European design and engineering to it's heritage and history. With the car world in general recognizing the position the Porsche holds ..how can you be so critical? It just doesn't make sense. Chromedome
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Replying to: pmc4 (Dec 07, 2007 6:21 pm) PS I'm getting tired, yawn ( also of this ) so don't listen to my diatribe. Go to Edmunds : Full Test: 2007 Porsche 911 S... Mr. Huffman dosen't seem to find any glaring issues with the 997, his comments are on the contrary,you have to trust someone. I'm figuring it's his business so who do you believe? I'm done. Chromedome |
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Replying to: fedlawman (Dec 07, 2007 11:52 am) The Toyota Camry Hybrid gets 12 extra MPG (city) over the standard 4 cylinder Camry and adds 29 horsepower. The Corvette gets 16/25. The V6 Camry gets 19 MPG city, whereas the Chevy Tahoe hybrid gets 21 MPG city. The Chevy Tahoe weighs over 5,000 lbs, can tow over 6,000 pounds, generates almost 400 horsepower with over 400 ft/lbs of torque and can seat over eight people. An astonishing engineering feat that makes the engineering in the putt-putt Camry hybrid look like the first-generation hybrid technology it is. I say again: Toyota's technological leadership in hybrid technology is first-generation and will be for the forseeable future; GM's technological hybrid leadership is newer, better, more powerful and much cleaner. The Corvette is the sportscar leader and always will be.
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Replying to: paisan (Dec 07, 2007 7:35 pm) I don't see any fire suppression on either car. I don't see any roll cages on either car. Heck I don't even see seats that would be legal in even the lowest level of club racing! They both have airbags, which are absolutely not allowed in racing. The picture of the Z06 car I showed is the commercial version of the car Chevrolet races in their endurance events. So when I said "Here's the [LeMans and ALMS winning] $75,000 sportscar..." I was not out of line (the Z06 is a $75,000 sportscar, and races at LeMans and ALMS, albeit with interior and suspensions strictly intended for the professional racing circuit). My main aim in posting these two pictures was to show that Corvettes are sadly underrated in their interior execution, and that Porsche models are grotesquely overrated in this regard, and I illustrated this unfortunate fact visually. Also, Edmunds just banned my picture-posting privelidge on this forum. it's a little disturbing to read a post from chromedome where he approximately stated, "Edmunds said the interior of the 911 is without peer, reaches Lexus-like levels of craftsmanship and Edmunds also said the Corvette interior is flimsy and plasticky" then when I try to post pictures showing that the 911 might not be as good as they say and that the Corvette may be better than they say, Edmunds censors my picture-posting privelidges on this forum. I wonder why? Paisan, do you have an explination? I'd confront this with a private message, but this forum doesn't have P/M's.
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Replying to: chrmdome (Dec 07, 2007 8:07 pm) What's funny is that Googling, "porsche lemans alms wins podium finishes" brought up like five links relating to Chevrolet's dominance in these endurance events. link title |
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