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Porsche 911, Chevrolet Corvette, Ferrari F430, Lotus Exige, Lotus Elise, Coupe
#487 of 531 Re: Porsche ad [chrmdome]
Dec 06, 2007 (10:35 pm)
Replying to: pmc4 (Dec 05, 2007 9:45 pm)
Yes , and by the way the " little black car " in the picture posted is an early VW...we all know the success story behind that company. Porsche AG , also by the way, is a major shareholder in Volkswagen...WHY????? Because Porsche AG has been so successful, knowing a good investment when they see one. No one in their right mind would look at Hitler as something positive , I see no humor there!... the example was used to show the heritage and history behind the Porsche company. That aside, the racing victories stand alone as testament to the engineering and world wide appeal of Porsche that many have labeled (the 911-997) as the worlds' premier sportscar, US magazines among them. And the debate drags on, except there are very few people who own Porsches posting on the Corvette forums.....everyone is always comparing their cars to Porsche. Obviously Porsche is the standard to which many others must compare. Nuff said!
Lol, chromedome please realise that Porsche almost went BK early 1990's because of masterpieces like the 924 that shared it's 100 hp engine with the AMC Gremlin (Google if you don't believe), or the 944 that belted out an astounding 140 hp engine and ripped thru the 1/4-mi at 16 seconds at like 60 MPH.
Econoboxes from Honda were running the quarter mile faster for crying out loud!...
The 928 (the only Porsche I like except the GT3) was like 90% Volkswagon.
As far as racing heritage, where is it? I mean, you can say that the Chicago Cubs have a baseball heritage but they never won the World Series. In like manner, Porsche has yet to consistiently beat Corvette at LeMans, even though the Vette is in the GTS class and the Porsche is in the GT class.
If you give a monkey a computer and extend his life by about 1 million years, by all probabilities, he will likely type out a Shakespareian play within that time.
If you give some guy an underpowered, underachieving "race" car and have him race it at LeMans for about 80 years, by probabilities, he'll probably win once or twice...
#488 of 531 Re: Porsche ad [pmc4]
Dec 06, 2007 (10:46 pm)
As presented, you rebut your own statement. Finally!.... Corvette has done something that Porsche has been doing for YEARS....taking the vehicle off road. Isn't it totally fantastic that Porsche can do with archaic materials such as iron and steel what it takes Corvette to do with fiberglass ( ya, an exotic material there... 60's technology like surfboards. ) I saw not exotic material inside my brothers Vette! Now carbon fiber could be called exotic..Did they take this little trek with a Porsche.. maybe next year. Anyways , I call you "Sir", you call me "Dude" An obvious illustration of one who drives a Corvette and one who drives a Porsche.Old porn star vs. business man. You still don't get it.. I don't care
#489 of 531 Re: Porsche ad [chrmdome]
Dec 06, 2007 (10:48 pm)
15 posts regarding Porsche interior plastics.
9 posts about interior panel fit and finish/
8 posts about Porsche reliability.
2 vaguely worded posts about Porsche's handling charasteristics.
3 posts regarding the stitching of the leather in Porsche cars.
Only ONE post about Porsche acceleration times, braking times, use of exotic, lightweight componentry, tuning of the drivetrain and power to weight ratio/
ZERO posts about Porsche top speed. ZERO posts about Porsche fuel efficiency. ZERO posts about Porsche actually winning a comparison test against the Vette, except in the Porsche 911thread.
Pathetic... Just pathetic...
#490 of 531 Re: Porsche ad [pmc4]
Dec 06, 2007 (10:59 pm)
And quite astonishing, not only can a Corvette owner read.. he can count!...Well ..I WAS wrong.. not a single word about Porsche interior plastics... I have a full leather interior... thank you and... it's not the vinyl quality leather found in Corvette. 997 C2S: 184mph top... and where does that get us... in the slammer.....real world issues ....NOT! All the mags go back and forth between awarding Corvette or Porsche 1st or 2nd. The issue is... I don't care about Corevette .,.. why do you Corvette guys care so much about Porsche? Blah, Blah Blah.. now go grab your bleached blond girl friend and take a spin... because that is the perception of Corvette..9 inch pink nails an a pack of Camels. Enjoy
#491 of 531 Re: This debate has been going on..... [pmc4]
Dec 06, 2007 (11:18 pm)
Just so that I understand... is laying down fiberglass " Eco Friendly"? I've been surfing all my life and resin is certainly not " Eco Friendly ", nor is fiberglass. American haters? I own a 2002 Chevy Tahoe and a 2007 Chevy Silverado. You have gone off issue...it's Corevette vs Porsche and,...by the way ..why are you over here on the Porsche forum ? Finally WE DON'T CARE!
#492 of 531 Whoa, guys
Dec 07, 2007 (5:13 am)
Let's drop the personal comments, please. BTW, there's no need to engage in an argument if you feel the conversation isn't making sense. Not responding is the best way to get the discussion to go away.
#493 of 531 Re: This debate has been going on..... [pmc4]
Dec 07, 2007 (12:52 pm)
"GM is currently on the forefront of asserting its technological leadership in environmentaly-friendly vehicles (Tahoe hybrid, Escalade hybrid, Saturn hybrid and the inevitable Chevrolet Volt)...unlike Toyota which is still stuck with First-Generation hybrid technology and will for some time to come"
The brand new Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid gets 2 extra MPG (city) over the standard 4 cylinder Malibu and adds ZERO horsepower.
The Toyota Camry Hybrid gets 12 extra MPG (city) over the standard 4 cylinder Camry and adds 29 horsepower.
#494 of 531 A General Question
Dec 07, 2007 (12:57 pm)
I have a general question for all the Corvette owners who come on this forum. The easiest way to get someone PO'ed is to critique a man's dog car or wife. This being so, why do Corvette guys come on this form and critique Porsche? I would really doubt , knowing the Porsche crowd, that we would go to your forum and put down Corvette. They are different cars. I'm comfortable owning my 2006 C2S. It's a world class car in most everyones opinion..and I'm not of the nature to put down what you own...what gives? Let's bypass the BS reasons and give me one good reason why this is being done. If you put down my Porsche is does nothing but start the fire...
#495 of 531 Re: A General Question [chrmdome]
Dec 07, 2007 (1:43 pm)
chrmdome: " ... why do Corvette guys come on this form and critique Porsche? I would really doubt , knowing the Porsche crowd, that we would go to your forum and put down Corvette. "
I'm not doing a critique on a Porsche, I'm doing a comparison given info provided by
published sources, one being the owner of this forum, presumably. You ask why
someone comes on a Porsche forum, this is about sportscars, not just P cars, and
at least in my world, sportscars go around corners, not through mud, most of the
You ask questions but seem to not want to respond to any. With what you have
acknowledged is a performance car that has, as you note, a top speed of 184mph,
why don't you get it out where it can exceed some speed limits and see what it is
really capable of? If you have it to drive it why be limited to 65 or 70mph when there
are lots of options to safely expand your knowledge of how to drive what you spent
some pretty good bucks acquiring? If you get passed by a Corvette, remember it
is just someone that has more time on track and you will soon show how superior
your machine can be handled! Looking forward to your first track report.
Off to Thunderhill on Sunday for what turns out to be the last Street School hosted
by the track. Thunderhill is owned by (Please Note) the SCCA, SF region. After
this event, the track is going to sublet instruction of new drivers to one of the many
private track event organizations, HookedonDriving. I expect I will see many P cars
and a few Corvettes since they have over 50 drivers set up for instruction. Should
be an amazingly beautiful day to enjoy showing a few folks how to better enjoy what
#496 of 531 Re: A General Question [starrow68]
Dec 07, 2007 (3:08 pm)
I live in a nice neighborhood... at least 3 Porsches, many BMW's, many MB's and at least 2 Corvettes. Not a single track guy amongst us. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy my C2S . I went to the North Shore of Hawaii to go surfing a few years ago and while I was there the waves were at least 15 feet. Talking to one of the locals ( I didn't go out ) he commented( he didn't go out either ) " You have to know your limitations" . I never WANT to go 135mph... that ( again ) doesn't mean I don't enjoy my car. Some posters have stated Porsche has cheap plastic and archaic materials....come on, we all know Porsche is state of the art ..but some have to make that idiotic statement to feed the flame. My point is that critiquing my car, when it's a world class machine by anyones standards, does not elevate yours, the comments do nothing other than lower those who make the comments. Myself included. My questions were not retorical.. I got you to respond. I get so much enjoyment just driving my car down to the beach that I don't need the negitivism of thinking what I don't like about your car... so why are you guys so up tight about Porsche? Enyoy your cars... it's not worth the brain space. Lexus copies BMW and MB No car company is dumb enough to try to make their car look like a Porsche or a Corvette .Basically , knocking my car doesn't make your car better