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My Take by chrmdome
Nov 23, 2007 (9:49 pm)
Greetings:
 
Opinions are like....... oh ya, ...in my humble opinion: I spent $99,949.85 out the door (cash sale, I am truely fortunate! )in Oct 2005 on my ordered 2006 C2S coupe. The VAST majority of Porsche owners never will experience the true potential of their cars, the VAST majority of Vet owners are likely in the same boat. I checked out the 2006 Corvettes and did not like the quality or fit of the interior. I own 2 Chevy products.. so I really do like Chevy. I was looking for a number of things in a sports car besides the fit and finish that Porsche offers. I have seen and driven Boxsters; they are built like a bank vault and a fine watch in one package.
Almost every auto critic places the 997 S in a world class arena with the best, but the issue, besides the superior build quality of my 997 S , that really strikes me, is the history, the legend, the heritage that surrounds Porsche. IMO Porsche defines a " sportscar ".; the 997 is a daily use sportscar. I will never drop my clutch at 5000rpm to do a 3.9 sec. 0-60 mph, but someone has and he did. There have been chronic Vet/ 911 comparisons which fall on my deaf ears. If you enjoy your Vet , more power to you..enjoy. I love my 997 S for many reasons.. it was a dream of mine for years......
 
Chromedome
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Porsche ad by pmc4
Nov 27, 2007 (10:05 pm)
There's a Porsche ad running in Wall Street Journals lately about why Porsche has their ignition keys on the left of the steering wheel.
The ad said, "When we started racing at 24-Hours of Lemans, we knew that every second counted. Our race car was vastly underpowered and did not have the power of the other cars, so realising how iportant time was, we put the ignition switch on the left side of the steering wheel, where it would be more accessible to the driver, freeing up his right hand for steering and engaging first gear. This is the level of attention and detail we give our cars, because in racing, every second counts."
 
Now my question is this: Wouldn't Porsche actually win at LeMans if they stopped wasting their money and time on ignition switches and actually do something unprecidented and unthought of, like add horsepower to their cars?
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Re: Porsche ad [pmc4] by hotrod81
Nov 28, 2007 (5:22 am)

Replying to: pmc4 (Nov 27, 2007 10:05 pm)

You could make your "wasting time" comment about any component on any car, or for that matter, any human activity. ie, if you are not working on horse power, then it is a waste of time. I suppose that all the other engineers and marketers should just quit. On the other hand, if you just want Porsches to have more HP, many would agree. I wouldn't mind a few more ponies in my Carrera. But do I blame this on the ignition switch? Nope.
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Re: Porsche ad [pmc4] by andys120
Nov 28, 2007 (8:45 am)

Replying to: pmc4 (Nov 27, 2007 10:05 pm)

Now my question is this: Wouldn't Porsche actually win at LeMans if they stopped wasting their money and time on ignition switches and actually do something unprecidented and unthought of, like add horsepower to their cars?
 
They did! Read the whole thing. It says their cars were under powered when they started racing. Once they started seriously making purpose built endurance racers in the late 60s and early 70s the HP count went up dramatically and they won at LeMans using the mighty 917 and kept winning for many years afterward. Porsche has more wins at LeMans than any other marque.
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Re: Porsche ad [andys120] by pmc4
Nov 28, 2007 (10:14 pm)

Replying to: andys120 (Nov 28, 2007 8:45 am)

"They did! Read the whole thing. It says their cars were under powered when they started racing. Once they started seriously making purpose built endurance racers in the late 60s and early 70s the HP count went up dramatically and they won at LeMans using the mighty 917 and kept winning for many years afterward. Porsche has more wins at LeMans than any other marque."
 
Porsche may have more wins at LeMans, but Porsche has also been racing that circuit since like around WWII, so it only stands to reason that they will have the most wins--they've been around the longest.
Since the Corvette engaged in this prestigious endurance racing event, it won more podium finishes than anything else, regardless of class!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Audi's LMP car may be the only exception.
 
"Once they started seriously making purpose built endurance racers in the late 60s."
 
You mean to tell me that "every second counts" in a race car that wasn't "purpose built" to begin with?
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Re: Porsche ad [pmc4] by chrmdome
Dec 03, 2007 (9:24 pm)

Replying to: pmc4 (Nov 28, 2007 10:14 pm)

Greetings:
 
Here is my advise/opinion. If you want to pick nits go check out some little preschoolers neck. You will never go past 100mph in your Corvette nor I in my Porsche. Too many comparisons are made between a rear engined 355 hp Porsche Carrera with a front engine 500hp Corvette. They are 2 different cars made for 2 different reasons. American muscle vs. European grace Subaru is made for off road racing, thus most models are 4 wheel drive. Porsche has raced in so many rally style races and has produced victory after victory. I would love to see a Corvette sliding aound some wet , curvey , pot hole filed , dirt road in the Black Forest. A lot of mud would be slung but no forward movement would be detectable. Different cars for different reasons and seasons. A corvette at the Tagra Floria...come on... by the way don't forget to grab your gold neck chain and the fake chest hair, your silk shirt opened to the navel,a pack of Camels and...oh ya grab Barbie too..because that is the perception of Corvette
 
Chromedome
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Re: Porsche ad [chrmdome] by paisan
Dec 03, 2007 (9:41 pm)

Replying to: chrmdome (Dec 03, 2007 9:24 pm)

You will never go past 100mph in your Corvette nor I in my Porsche.
 
Why would you buy either of them then? I routinely take my 1994 Subaru Legacy with stock drivetrain and 150k miles on it up over 100mph, heck over 120mph at the track, as do other Porsche and Corvette drivers that I race/HPDE with.
 
-mike
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Re: Porsche ad [paisan] by chrmdome
Dec 03, 2007 (10:00 pm)

Replying to: paisan (Dec 03, 2007 9:41 pm)

Greetings
 
Paisan.. the vastly hugh majority of Porsche owners don't track them.. Here in California anyone caught speeding even 1 mph over 100mph are given the" go directly to jail card ". I do not have the skill nor the intention to track my 997 but I do enjoy the hell out of driving the car , detailing it and just sitting in it
 
Chao
 
Chromedome
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Re: Porsche ad [chrmdome] by paisan
Dec 03, 2007 (10:05 pm)

Replying to: chrmdome (Dec 03, 2007 10:00 pm)

You should check out NASA and other car clubs that offer HPDEs which are High Performance Driving Events. You get both track time with an instructor as well as classroom time, which will give you some very very valuable skills for both on track and on-road driving. Well worth the ~$150-200 for the day to be able to open up your car w/o worrying about cops etc. The skills you learn will also improve your on-road safety. I know that after having done HPDEs I was a far more alert and safe driver on the road. Now I instruct students on track and it's great to see them have a blast and really learn how to drive the machines they spent so much hard earned money on.
 
-mike
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Re: Porsche ad [paisan] by chrmdome
Dec 04, 2007 (8:48 pm)

Replying to: paisan (Dec 03, 2007 10:05 pm)

Mike:
 
Thank you sir, you know, I might just do that . I have been fishing and golfing for the last 10 years and have been thinking about another "fun " thing. I might just do that, thanks
 
Chromedome

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