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Porsche 911, Chevrolet Corvette, Ferrari F430, Lotus Exige, Lotus Elise, Coupe
#393 of 532 Re: Errata for the errata... [andys120]
May 02, 2006 (9:12 am)
It's Porsche's fault for having so many similar names.
I agree. It took me 6 months of being a pain in the ass before GEICO sent me an insurance renewal adjustment that finally correctly reflected my car. For the first 6 months, they claimed the VIN on my 2005 911S Cab was showing up in their system as a "Carrera S/GT". A non-S 911 was simply "911 Carrera". For the first 6 months of ownership I was paying over 2 times what a 911 non-S model would have run ($1,240 vs. $610). And the same as what Jay Leno pays for his Carrera GT.
After my last heated conversation, I got a renewal notice that puts the 6-month premium of my 2005 911S at $16 less than my 2004 Acura TL 6 speed and well less than my former S2000. I think I'll keep my mouth shut on that one.
#395 of 532 Re: Article, good reading [starrow68]
May 17, 2006 (5:04 am)
It will be interesting to see if that CGT case will set any precedent and who will be faulted if anyone. It is also curious that Porsche had planned to produce 1500 CGTs but halted production in May after making only 1271 with less-than-desirable demand being cited as a reason.
The driver of that CGT was an avid and popular poster at a Porsche-enthusiast website. It will also be interesting to see if and how his activity there will figure into the lawsuit, whether it will be used by defense or plaintiff in the case. In any event, the case will be closely watched.
When is it beyond an average driver? Good question. I’d like to know who is qualified to take a Veyron up to 250. Should Piech be worried?
#396 of 532 Re: Article, good reading [starrow68]
May 17, 2006 (5:26 am)
Check out Straighline Blogs, I think both events were covered.
#397 of 532 Carrera GT vs. Enzo
May 17, 2006 (1:50 pm)
Off topic, but having seen pictures of both cars, it looked to me like the damage to the Porsche was not nearly as severe as to the Enzo, yet two killed in the GT and a bloody nose in the Enzo. Anybody else get that impression?
#398 of 532 Re: Carrera GT vs. Enzo [habitat1]
May 18, 2006 (8:21 am)
At those extreme forces, a lot of it has to do with dumb luck. The Enzo broke in half but it looks like it was hit behind the passenger cabin, which was relatively intact.
Jun 16, 2006 (7:59 pm)
Hooray for BMW! Making a sports car for people who love sports cars. I can't wait to get my hands on an M Coupe and a Cayman back to back.
Finally more German car companies are joining in the fun of manufacturing quasi purpose-built vehicles. Of course, there will always be amenities to be had in the interest of staying competitive. However it's great to see lighter weight, four and six cylinder sports cars.
#400 of 532 Sour Benzo: Car Dealer Demands $2 Million for Defective Supercar
Jun 16, 2006 (8:48 pm)
This is a weird one. I can think of a handful of cars for less money that would have given this idiot less trouble and more fun than a CLK-GTR.
As an engineer and automotive technical advisor, I've always suggested against importing these homoligation specials for a few reasons. The biggest reason is that you're buying a RACE CAR, not a road car. Race cars only need to be as reliable as the race season is long.
If it's a factory effort (which it was), then every system of that vehicle has the shelf life of a room temperature carton of milk. The reason for this is because if a problem occurs within the vehicle during the race, there is a team of super smart engineers to fix it as soon as it goes wrong. That car will remain a carbon-fibre/kevlar paperweight until someone realizes that all the diagnostic equipment is locked away with AMGs discontinued race effort.
Sour Benzo: Car Dealer Demands $2 Million for Defective Supercar
#401 of 532 Re: BMW M Coupe [ultimatedriver]
Jun 17, 2006 (6:46 am)
Hold your "hoorays" until actually drive the car.
BMW's previous attempts at true sports cars have been very weak, IMO. The former M coupe was a loser out of the box. The Z3/Z4 have an extra 500 lbs and have a fraction of the visceral feel of a $30k Honda S2000, let alone a Cayman or Boxster.
I say this as a pretty seious BMW loyalist. I currently drive a 2003 M5 and was one of under 500 original owners of a 1979 M1. Unfortunately, I do not think BMW has made anything since that could be considered an advancement in terms of true "sportscariness". I gave the Z8 some consideration, but a single test drive - at BMW's own track, no less - convinced me that it was a $120k+ wannabe compared to similar priced offerings from Ferrari and Porsche.
I will defend to near death BMW's superiority in sports sedans. The M3 and M5 reign as kings in their respective fields. And no 1,000 hp overweight AMG or Audi offering is going to change that. But I think for a real sports car, BMW needs to abandon engine sharing and do what Honda did - hand a bunch of engineers a completely clean slate.
P.S. On your CLK-GTR comments, I fully agree. Why anyone would buy one of those over a proven, superior $450k Carerra GT or even a $200k production Ferrari 430 is beyond me. Just because they only produced 5 doesn't automatically make it a good car.
#402 of 532 Re: Sour Benzo: Car Dealer Demands $2 Million for Defective Supercar [ultimatedriver]
Jun 18, 2006 (6:02 pm)
There's also the irony that McLaren-Mercedes would've been likely to win last year's F1 championship if Raikkonen's car had been reliable enough to finish its races.
On the other hand, there are other homologated cars that haven't been lemons, like the STi and Evo (homologated from Group N rallying, not full-blown WRC).
As for why anyone would buy a CLK-GTR, I don't think that's the sort of purchase you can apply logic to. It's not like they're daily drivers. Lots of people are Mercedes fans and lots of rich people have had their cars for a long time. They find themselves in a position to buy a supercar... why not buy the pinnacle of their brand? The SLR wasn't out yet and even after it was, the CLK-GTR was more expensive, exclusive, and hardcore.
Speaking of the STi and Evo, I'm thinking that the only reason I don't call them sports cars is because they don't look like sports cars. So I wonder if a Mitsubishi 3000GT would be called a sports car just on looks (it was FWD with optional AWD). Any 6-year old would call it a sports car, and we're not far removed from them. Or not me, anyway...