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First Time Buyer - Limited Credit - Low debt to income ratio by penone
Jun 11, 2009 (5:48 pm)
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I'm looking to get a car by end of month and am wondering what to expect. It would be my first car financed under my own name (prior to this I either paid cash for a car or had it under my mother's name) and my first financed car.
 
I'm 37, make $ 72K/year (verifiable with pay stubs), live with my girlfriend and our rent is $880.00 per month (my share being $ 440.00). Up until December of 08 I paid everything in cash and did not have any credit cards. Realizing that if I ever wanted to get a house or a new car I would need to establish some sort of credit I went ahead and got 2 secured cards - each with a $ 300.00 limit and both have been paid in full the past 6 months. I just finished rehabing an outstanding student loan I had but the loan nor its default is on any of my 3 credit reports (they are over 15 years old). The remaining amount on the loan ($ 2800) is now being handled by the DOE and they tell me that it should show up on my report in the next 45-60 days as a positive trade line but am not holding my breath on that. My monthly minimum payments on that will be $ 50.00 per month which I can easily afford. Other than the 2 small credit cards there is nothing else on my reports. My Experian score is 722, my Equifax is 754 and my Transunion is 697.
 
I am looking to get a car now as taking mass transit is getting a bit old (I haven't owned a car in over 5 years. I live in NYC where mass transit is pretty good). My question is what can I expect in regards to financing? I can put down $2500 on a car and am interested in getting a 2006 Lexus IS250 (based on autotrader.com searches the average price is $ 23K) or if possible a 2009 model. Based on my salary, my very limited credit history and my small debt to income ratio what are my chances of getting a car loan? I can easily pay a few hundred dollars a month on a car payment and still have money left over. Would I even qualify to be able to get a lease?
 
These 4 hour round trip commutes to work is starting to get to me (been doing it for the past 18 months) and would like to be able to drive again.
 
Any thoughts is greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks!
-P
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Re: First Time Buyer - Limited Credit - Low debt to income ratio [penone] by volvomax
Jun 12, 2009 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: penone (Jun 11, 2009 5:48 pm)

You should qualify for a car loan on the used car easily enough. Esp if you are going thru a captive like Toyota Credit. New car is gonna be harder and you probably won't qualify for a lease(lease co's like to see prior car credit)
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Re: First Time Buyer - Limited Credit - Low debt to income ratio [volvomax] by penone
Jun 12, 2009 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: volvomax (Jun 12, 2009 12:09 pm)

Thanks volvomax for the reply. After doing a bit more research today I see that getting a lease at this time is definitely not an option with no installment credit whatsoever. But I do hope to be able to get a loan for a used lexus. I've read in other posts and in different articles that it's best to go to a dealer with a loan already in your hand. Is that the consensus?
 
-P
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Re: First Time Buyer - Limited Credit - Low debt to income ratio [penone] by volvomax
Jun 12, 2009 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: penone (Jun 12, 2009 12:21 pm)

I've read in other posts and in different articles that it's best to go to a dealer with a loan already in your hand. Is that the consensus?
 
Can't hurt. Sometimes the dealer can do better,sometimes they can't.
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Re: First Time Buyer - Limited Credit - Low debt to income ratio [penone] by joel0622
Jun 12, 2009 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: penone (Jun 11, 2009 5:48 pm)

I can easily pay a few hundred dollars a month on a car payment
 
To me a few hundred means $300. I think you are looking at way to much ride. Even on 72 months you are all over $400 a month.
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Re: First Time Buyer - Limited Credit - Low debt to income ratio [joel0622] by penone
Jun 12, 2009 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jun 12, 2009 12:38 pm)

By a few hundred I mean about $ 500 or $ 600. I take home about $3900 a month. After rent, student loan, food, cell phone, cable and electric, etc. I'm left with approx. $ 2500 a month give or take. I do tend to eat out a lot - do a bit of traveling and like to buy nice clothes but am willing to sacrifice that to get a nice car. I figure paying $ 600 on a 5 year loan (totaling $36K) I'd be able to afford something nice.
 
My issue is that - although I know I can afford it how do I convince a bank/finance company that I can with such a small credit history? I hope by being able to show the dealer how much I make and what my rent is they can see that I can afford a high monthly payment of $ 500 or $ 600.

-P
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Re: First Time Buyer - Limited Credit - Low debt to income ratio [penone] by lokki
Jun 12, 2009 (1:26 pm)
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Replying to: penone (Jun 12, 2009 12:57 pm)

I faced a somewhat similar problem of establishing credit after being outside the states for about 10 years back in the late 70 to mid 80's. I actually ended up putting up a CD as security on my car loan. I had plenty of cash but no credit.
I got a good enough rate of return on the CD, and a good rate on the loan. You might discuss that kind of arrangement with a bank or credit union.
 
Nex idea:
How much do you intend to put as a downpayment on the loan? If you have a $20K car, and you put down $15K you shouldn't have any trouble getting a loan for the balance - plenty there for them to repossess- and your monthly payments will be minimal.... nice situation for establishing credit.
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Re: First Time Buyer - Limited Credit - Low debt to income ratio [penone] by joel0622
Jun 12, 2009 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: penone (Jun 12, 2009 12:57 pm)

I think you will be fine. We get people handled all the time in your situation. You are only at about 9% PTI if the payment is $600, and you have a good down payment. FYI it is easier to get financed on a new car then it is a used one.
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Re: First Time Buyer - Limited Credit - Low debt to income ratio [joel0622] by penone
Jun 13, 2009 (4:06 am)
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Replying to: joel0622 (Jun 12, 2009 5:01 pm)

Thanks Joel for the reply. I do have to say thought that I was surprised when you mentioned it would be easier to get financed for a new car than a used car. I would have thought it would be the other way around.
 
-P
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Re: First Time Buyer - Limited Credit - Low debt to income ratio [penone] by joel0622
Jun 13, 2009 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: penone (Jun 13, 2009 4:06 am)

Always rememember this. The captive finance company is there to support the manufacture in selling cars. All the manufacture cares about is if a dealer is selling new cars, used does nothing for them. So in an effort to support the manufacture the captive buys more aggressive on new. You might even qualify for a first time buyers program on a new car.
 
Look at cars in this order from a finance standpoint
 
1. New
2. CPO
3. Used
4. Private Party.

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