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Re: Question about 0% financing [volvomax] by tidester HOST
Apr 22, 2009 (8:32 pm)
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Replying to: volvomax (Apr 22, 2009 12:56 pm)

As if that's a good reason to lose money.
 
I don't think anyone is suggesting that you sell at a (real) loss but are you folks saying that your profit margins were so razor thin in good times that there is simply zero slack in the current market?
 
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Re: Question about 0% financing [tidester] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 23, 2009 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Apr 22, 2009 8:32 pm)

Oh I think that the idea of the dealer selling at a real loss is definitely on *some* buyer's minds--at least this was my impression---and "the boys" here are attempting to disavow people of that hope. Some buyers might be hoping for a kind of distress sale scenario to unfold amid the burning temples and crumbling walls of Rome
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Re: Question about 0% financing [Mr_Shiftright] by volvomax
Apr 23, 2009 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 23, 2009 7:01 am)

Oh I think that the idea of the dealer selling at a real loss is definitely on *some* buyer's minds--at least this was my impression---and "the boys" here are attempting to disavow people of that hope. Some buyers might be hoping for a kind of distress sale scenario to unfold amid the burning temples and crumbling walls of Rome
 
Bingo.
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Re: Question about 0% financing [tidester] by volvomax
Apr 23, 2009 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Apr 22, 2009 8:32 pm)

I don't think anyone is suggesting that you sell at a (real) loss but are you folks saying that your profit margins were so razor thin in good times that there is simply zero slack in the current market?
 
Unless you are selling Porsche's or the like, your profit margin is thin in the best of times.
The problem today is all the doom and gloom that the media pumps out have given consumers an unrealistic expectation of the market.
Even if you can take $10,000 off a new car(thanks to rebates) a customer walks in and wants ANOTHER $10,000 off. No way to make a deal there.
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How do you figure out the ones who can get credit now days? by lokki
Apr 23, 2009 (8:06 am)
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I'm sure that this has always been a problem but how does a salesman determine who can obtain financing nowadays and who won't be able to before you invest 1000 hours in a transaction that's doomed to fail?
 
Or has the situation improved to where it's possible for average Joes like the undersigned to get loans again? I guess, to be precise, what kind of credit score are you going to need to be able to get a $20K loan towards a $30 K car?
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Re: How do you figure out the ones who can get credit now days? [lokki] by boomchek
Apr 23, 2009 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: lokki (Apr 23, 2009 8:06 am)

The way we do things at our Chrysler dealer is we pre approve anyone and everyone who may think that their credit is not perfect.
 
A lot of folks come in and even ask to get pre approved before hand.
 
This lets us determine if someone is financeable or not.
 
Usually fico scores below 500 are not doable, 500-600 will be subprime with 15-29% apr, and may qualify for a $10-$20k car, and above 600 will be close to prime but still dependent if there's any collections or detrmintal stuff on file or not, and how much debt one carries. At times you can have decent fico scores but carry a ton of debt, so you might not get approved cause your debt service is too high.
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Re: How do you figure out the ones who can get credit now days? [boomchek] by fezo
Apr 23, 2009 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (Apr 23, 2009 9:13 am)

15 - 29%!!!
 
And yet these people buy anyway...
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Re: How do you figure out the ones who can get credit now days? [fezo] by boomchek
Apr 23, 2009 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Apr 23, 2009 11:30 am)

Some people are unfortunately stuck in crappy situation and really do need a car so they do end up paying 29% apr on their car loans.
 
There's also those that don't care what their APR is as long as they have a flashy car.
 
And then there are others who wish they could get approved even at 29% apr who had auto repos less than a year before applying with us, and who applied literally everywhere for a loan, and who even have collections for things like $20 bounced checks, payday loan places, telephone and cable bills, etc. They're just really really not very good with their finances in general.
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Re: How do you figure out the ones who can get credit now days? [boomchek] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 23, 2009 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Apr 23, 2009 12:21 pm)

How do such people keep from having their lives just explode? You can't juggle that many balls in the air for too long.
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Re: How do you figure out the ones who can get credit now days? [Mr_Shiftright] by boomchek
Apr 23, 2009 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 23, 2009 12:23 pm)

Some do end up paying their cars on time and slowly fixing their credit. Others just go through this cycle every 6-7 years, by messing up their credit, waiting for it to "heal" 7 years later, then buying stuff again and not paying for them and so on.....

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